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Please insure that it retains it's current location in this file. ~)_~)_(~ Conservation Order Category Identifier Organizing RESCAN DIGITAL DATA OVERSIZED (Scannable with large plotter/scanner) [] Color items: [] Diskettes, No. [] Maps: [] Grayscale items: [] Other, No/Type [] Other items c,~' Poor Quality Originals: OVERSIZED (Not suitable for [] Other: plotter/scanner, may work with 'log' scanner) [] Logs of various kinds [] Other NOTES: BY: ROBIN ~ Scanning Preparation TOTAL PAGES ~.~ Is~ BY; ROBI~ Production Scanning Stage I PAGE COUNT FROM SCANNED DOCUMENT: PAGE COUNT MATCHES NUMBER IN SCANNING PREPARATION: NO Stage 2 IF NO IN STAGE 1, PAGE(S) DISCREPANCIES WERE FOUND: YES ~ NO (SCANNING IS COMPLETE AT THIS POINT UNLESS SPECIAL ATTENTION IS REQUIRED ON AN INDIVIDUAL PAGE BASIS DUE TO QUALITY, GRAYSCALE OR COLOR IMAGES) General Notes or Comments about this Document: 5/21/03 ConservOrdCvrPg.wpd STATE OF ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION OF OIL AND GAS Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee 3001 Porcupine Drive Anchorage, Alaska 99504 Re: THE APPLICATION OF PAN ) AMERICAN PETROLEUM CORPORATION ) for an order amending Conservation ) Order Nos. 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C. ) Conservation Order No. 88 Prudhoe Bay Field Prudhoe Bay Kuparuk River Oil Pool Prudhoe Bay Sadlerochit Oil Pool Prudhoe Bay Lisburne Oil Pool March 25, 1970 IT APPEARING THAT: I. The Pan American Petroleum Corporation petitioned the Alaska 0~ and Gas Conservation Committee for the referenced order on February 2, 1970. 2. A notice of the hearing was published in the Anchorage Daily News on February II, 1970, pursuant to Title II, Alaska Administrative Code, Section 2009. 3. A public hearing on this matter was held February 26, 1970, in the Ben Crawford Memorial Building, Anchorage, Alaska, at which time the applicant and others were heard. AND IT FURTHER APPEARING THAT Pan American Petroleum Corporation is an owner of lands within or adjacent to the pools defined in Conservation Order Nos. 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C and may be affected by said orders. AND IT FURTHER APPEARING THAT there is evidence in the record of the November 13 and 14, 1969, hearing to support Finding No. 5 of Conservation Order No. 83-B and Finding No. 6 of Conservation Order No. 83-C and Rule 2 of both orders. AND ~T FURTHER APPEARING THAT the Committee considered only the evidence in the record of the November 13 and 14, 1969, hearing in establishing the findings and rules of Conservation Order Nos. 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C. CONSERVATION ORDER NO. 88 Page 2 March 25, 1970 AND IT FURTHER APPEARING THAT the applicant's request to substitute the following words in Conservation Order Nos. 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C, "It is further ordered that the pool limits and well spacing hereby established may be changed or may be made permanent with or without change upon the application of any owner of lands within the pool, after notice and hearing as required by law, and based on the evidence produced at said hearing." is unnecessary because Title II, Alaska Administrative Code, Section 2004, states, "Upon request of the Committee or any interested party at any time after the discovery of oil or gas in a pool, a hearing shall be held and the Committee shall issue an order based upon the evidence p. resented prescribing any necessary field rules for the development of the pool." (emphasis supplied) AND IT FURTHER APPEARING THAT the automatic termination provision of Conservation Order Nos. 83-A and 83-B was supported by statements at the November 13 and 14, 1969, hearing that the orders should not be effective for a prolonged period of time and the orders written can be terminated after public hearing or extended by the Committee. NOW, THEREFORE, iT IS ORDERED THAT Pan American Petroleum Corporation's request for amendment of Conservation Order Nos 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C is denied. DONE at Anchorage, Alaska, and dated March 25, ~970. Th6mas R~ Marshal I" Jrt, Ex'eCu"t~ve S~cretary Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee Concurrence: Homer L. Burrel~, Chairman Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee O]'"'K. Gi l'br~i~h~ Jr.' Memberf~ - A~aska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee ' ' ANCHORAGE OFFICE · PHONE (907) 279.7812 SUITE 722 · FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING · ANCHORAGE:., ALAS~'~A 99501 HEF~MAN LOEB Area Flopro~entative February 26, 1970 Al. ask& Oil and Gas Conservation Committee ~ O± ne e ~ orcup.~ Driv Anchorage, Alaska 99504 RE: Conservation Order 83-A Prudhoe Bay Kuparuk River Oil Pool Conservation Order 83-B Prudhoe Bay Sadlerochit Qil Pool Conservation Order 83-C Pru. dhoe Bay Lis'burne Oil.Pool Gentlemen' Reference is made to the recent request 'by Pan. American.' Petroleum Corporation for reconsideration and modification of Conservation Orders 83-A,, 83-B and'83-C. Pennzoil' U'nited, inc. very much appreciates the tremendcu~:~.~ ~ ,::m, oun~~ ' ~- of research and di].~.~ent~o wor, k done in. this regard by both the Alaska..Oii and Gas Conservation Comm.Lttee and the ~(;ew~ra. 1 m~erators. Pennzoil United, Inc. fee.ls that sufficient data has not been presented to the Committee or the industry to aon a present determination a~, to the optimum area which caN, be economicail.N and efficiently drained~by one well.. It does appear that i. nitial well 'spacing of one well tO 640 acres will res~It in early definition of the areal extent of the field which ,,: . ~a:.~.,'~I and ,,~,,,, Conservation 'Commit, e ':;'ebruary 26, ].970 'Pa'~e .2 in turn wl.~..l resu~ n accumulation oS data unon which a more refined and equitable order establishing well spacing could' b"e based. ~t the same time such spacing·will not i~er.+'ere with oroper deveioement of the field while protecting correlative rights of the lessees in the field. Pennzoil also strongly feels that orders for all pools in the subject area be expressly recognized as temporary until adequate ge'ological and engineering data upon which rules can be based are presented to the Committee. Your consideration of our position in this regard will be very much appreciated. Respectfully submitted, PENNZOIL UNITED, INC. B. C. Sinclair HE AR ING OF ~'~- = .~.i~., AI..'t.5{K~OIL AND GAS CONSERVAT ION CO~MITTEE C.O..#88 . · · Anchorage~ ~ ~ ' February 26, 1970 9:30 'a.m. f · ' 6 EEARiNG OF THE A. LASKA OIL AND GAS' # 88 __ BURR~LL' This is a ~o- ~ ,. ,, .~ , Oil and Gas .Conservation Committee. I'.ll read the not:ce or . ..p~a!ic hearing -- Conservation File #88, regarding the apPl~_- cation of Pan Amcxican Petroleum Corporation~for a'n'~O, rder,. . .. ~" . '~ ' .,. ~ i ,' ,' '~ '.:~s. me~'~ding C0nserv. atio.~ Orders 83A,;'?.83B., 'and 83C ~hich are for. .:'~.:'che P~Udkoe.'"Bay ~KUpar~k. River Oil .POol ~:':P'r'Udh0.e. 'BaY"Sadie~-ochi¢ '. :'.' .. ':and the 2x:udhoe ~y Lisbourne oil pool , ] . '.'~,.,.,:.'.:~L. ,': ,.~ ~.,..;. :. ::.. : .... .r:.;.:.de~e~:miae :at~:,this.:'time ~ e' ' ....... '' ' ':'"' t~ a~'ea ~h~',¢an;,: econom~cal:lv.,and. "-i. '-., ,~- ' ',' i;~ ,;':i,?, :i i::' ,':': ','/.: : .;.: '"::'.':~:"..~i;!!:i::~:~"'~'. ,.:.,/. q: :;,~' ~,"~: ~,,,~.',, ~," :,:',.':' '.r:'l ' We~L ~'1 sa~ ooo~ : b~ ~'~e ~:~v'~' .......... .., ..... : -- ..... ..:::.:~:.,... (:.:.':t,~,, ..:~. '" :"-.t"::[ :- . .~.'cea~''~ doeS"',es~ab!ish· ~ha~ ar~.ini~'ial-.we'.Li'., ~,:'~". ',::...~ *': ~.~ ~:..-. ' - ,'" ,. :~i;t '.' ' to ,~:,~.,,~ ~-,.,.,,, ¢:~cres .will ..... resul'- "' ,r=. ef~n~:~on.o*' ; . , . .:. :'"- F~ & R COURT REPORTER~ - .... . .-, 8~ WEST EIGHTH AVENU~ -- BUIT~ :'/,.: :',~,, ,',, ,:: i nhe pool limits and the most rapid accumulation of'~~the infor-I ' r:...acion upon ~,~hich an order establishing' permanent well-spacing cou.:.u be based 'and will promote orderly development of the ?~oo! assist in the perventio:~, of waste~ and protect the cox~reiative rights of lessees in the Pool during f-he initial deveiopment~~'~hereof. ~' 4. Amending Conservation' Orders ~)83A . . and 83B to 'delete' the O~der, '~It is. further ordered tha~ the ' :, rules hereincofore.set forth sh~il.:~expire' nine months from the'~date of:..this Order,.except'~as -'? ;"{'}" '' ' "':'" ':"{;"' A ' "~'~ Oosm,zt tee- :.'A:me~:ld'inS Conserva tzon, Orders · ...,,~.~.<,..o~'.my..aQ~z~g. the . ... ...~,...,,,- ,....:r..=..~,~, ,~: ~ .., ~ . .~ . , , fo i lo~ng.. ,: ~ ~, ~t~: 'Xurine ~ t; o r~e r e,:~ ~. rna n. ch.e. :~:~ ............ii ::,.. :. r.'3.....' .... ..: .:...~ ..... :::.:~.:..~:':4:? :~:, :~, .:: . ,:: ....... ~ · ,. ~ool limits a d e-. --r.=..-' ~ .,, ii ?,¥~;,~%,,., . : :. ....,r:.......,...:. ',-: ,),, ,,','. '~%,,"'1 ..... .. .. ''. ~:.'...:.: '.':""..'. ..... ' .,1. ,. ',,,'. ',., - , .: .... . . ,, ~,. , '~, ',~,,,,,,'~ r ,,,O : ?,'::,;: h ~:..... 3:::.~,.pp'~.;ca~ion owner, oz~ l'an'd.~ wi.tli~:.':Che.."'".Po notice .,.~,,.,,,, ,, .5 -. ,a~"~?:'~ hearing3~S:'r,equired"by,':law, and't'baS~d;./,',,'aa°n!:'the evi. dence pro- . :.... ..,.=, .... . i? " "' "'-- ~ ..... ~- int:..this matter'.::~ )70~ a.c .2 [ ~:,,' : .. .: h i. , ' :' :' :::' :,'t'::; ',t9 '-':~ n' C' ":"' ,.':! :{:" "?'~.":,,;" . ...- ~, . ,, , ,,, :Z8 f~. ,r; e }{~ : ' ~ ~ ! . ..~., ,.: ,, , , .' '.: ,',~ :."'i' '-"'.'. ..... o,,ail Junior Executive S . .,.,,, ", ,.,,,,:,.,. '~. i.~l , .,, ~ .,, , , ~ ,, . ~ , ,, ,: ;? .... ,,, .,,,, ,.. " ::' '":" ~'' "~'~': .'. '.. :. 'Co~Sex' ~ ~ ~' ~,~va- .-tion., ,~ :Cor~m~i'~'tee-,-~ · ~ ~ ~ ~,':: ';{... This ' ,.~ . ,,,; . ,. , , ~ 11 .. , - . ,'' : ., , , , :, ,i .' ~,' '~ ,, · · , . ,., ,.. ·. · .,, , . ,:',,, ~ ., .., , ' . .. ~ ·, ,,, t '.~ , .. ~ :...~:~...~:.....:..,: ~o ~. ~: :..',~ '~:'.Ancho ra ge'~ Da'~.':iy.?'Neus.':.o'n~:.;.:~Feb r.~.'~'ry'.;..:'l:i::?}L'9 ?,"':~' '~,::.: .,,,, ~,.,,, i'~ ..... ,... , .... ' .......... ' :: .', ~ . , , , · · ', :,: '?;' ~' ', ]'Z ,~ ~'.'.Ta~-~ ,..- ~ '~ '~ ".~ · ':','~ -~':"~.~' :~" ....", ~,': , "m~-'~ "", ~..L". }-'~"~. · ':" '.- .... I~ ' '"' .... ' ' ......... ' ......... .~i:~:,:.~::?::~:'2' :"': "'- ~ ....;.':': To,. t:r~'7. ,. rzght',__, :is.:, . Tom, , Marshall., _;:: . . ,. ,., . ,.,, ~ ~. :~ ,. ,,, , ,. ,.. ,. -. le,,,2, ~ "~ ,-~ .',~ .: _ .. {',,, , ', ~,; :':~' .. is l~r. O. K. Gilbreth, a member of the Conservation Co.=='~i~tee; to his left is Bob Kartig, repres.a.~ting the Att°rney-Gene=al~s office; and other members of the Alaska Division of Oil and . ~,<' and Harry Kugler Gas~ Carl Vonder'Ahe next, Lo ..... ze Smith, and we have Jean Wedekind here from the Division also, running ~-~,~= tape recorder. We don't have thecro~:a~ tn~t'= we '~aa' at ' ~he previous Hearing. on the Pr'udhoe .Bay.Rules, '~'~'~vem~,~'e'" i3 and . . ~.'::14,. ...t~ezef°~e~ unless somebody objects,~, I['m. .., going to permit questiOns to be,asked by me~oers.'ofi the audience, provided that · ~'~hey come up'~and use tt~e microphon.e,~'~so'~e can ge~: them on ~:}~'.[.'the.: record, and identify themselves,...~...These'queStions 'will .be :~oe~m~t~ed az~er'the'Coma~ittee,~. .. . .... . 'and'its.advisors'..haVe'com~leted,~__ ~ ';,~...:";~.ahei:~'?'ques'.~i~ns~' · T~,iS)'.reqUes.t',.~ S~ ~ . Pa'n'/'A~erica~'i Petroleum -, :.:, = .. · L~.~:cor~aence testimOny in suppo~t>'.of the ' 'i~ '~' '" "'' .... .' , ~,,S.. ~:}~r.~ C a,zrman ;and mere'bets 'or'the. .: ,j, ~.:: ,/. .. C ,,~ ...... t'tee,, my name i ~' ~:,,~:~.~ga~ · :Pet~o'~eum COrpora tzon. ,:.;.:.This., ..~s, ;~lr.[';~ ~w~/wza~ Pa n Araa:ican',P.e" ', ~ ' aro,~'eum ~Co~porat. ion pearing for: Pea ,~. , '...,..../. ~ : f .' ,L ' .' L ,~ may ~ a0~e_ . '" "' ' :;'' ay ou: app~.zcation'.iS.real'iY'a legai a;-g~'me~-~t ra~a=a-'Chan.'a . - ,.,~a~ ~eoaimany.' l~..do have:. .~ ....alan'' ~vl~ch re'q~i~es' .any ~ ~ - . . ~-" -. ., .... . '~, ',..: -,' .' :.. ~:...u'. ';..< '.~ ;..>:, a a ~ cou~ aaPoa~aas~' '~'>'~'"'"'-;":' '"' . I! here who would be prepared to testify if. ,a~.nything comes up, if there are 'any questions. I would like to ask at time: · if there are others --~weli, have any protests bee~-~ filed with the Cor~m%ittee? To this ' ? I'2 ~? '"' '~": 2,. 13 ~i':,:, '": ' , :', · · ~ 15 I¥~1. BURRELL' There have been no protests ;, filed. · · ~. SWAN' Are ,' -':.:e. any ?arsons . d© desire ,.to ~.pr~-_~est ,..' or are they "s implY '~here to aS~.ques~ons '""'~' "'" " '~:' B~RRELL: They','have ,no ~den:~f~,~ themselves to tlXe,.com~ittee in advance. . - ~'".'"-:.. 7.~ ;'":~'~}"~"~ "" . ...~::.. ..... ..:/ :. I~fR:. ,SWAN: :We1 ;,,p ~us'e ~, me ·, ,":' ,:to, ::.,, '~:iveo , yoU'.'::a',. lot:':' o f .: ,ca s es, a[ ~i.,~: .~qg= 1 .:.a,~ gume. ~,,, .: z.,, ~n ~.,.::,.. :~'~is is the place for",,~it, but ';i ;gm' ,:r i. . . n~w/,.zn.vo~ "' '~v'ed .. . ' ~ an order 'o tr, e"Dzstrzc~ Oour ir app~icat'ion ,,' o~:., a".' spacing' :rule is. inval:za a ,led"my ~"": ':'"' "'"'t~''~-?'~:~- they'~e~, going to ha'.ve t~',e " :",i:t and I ~n~. .. ~. distinction tare hold. hel: :~: !~c~ t~la~ · becaus t in, t~';~s case. The po~.,1s ~hat ~h:[nl~ ;',read ai.l . : . 8 what the requirements for a valid spacing order are. And, quite frankly, I think that your Order is supported by the record, but i think that one of" your Findings is not supported; il ma y . 4,,!I by the record and that iC is a Finding which/cause~ not .~u.,zy . . you, but some of the other operators, some ~ouo~.e. And that~.~; ~ ~i'~e r3ason for the fil~no of this a~piication.~ And the 7 that I challenge -'we~l,~ there's really t~o --' On'e ~n' e Ordez Z. That the~permeabitity and pressuz c mzam.~cation in .1~ this reservOir :' is such that a well shou!d:~.drain 640 acres. . An~ .tn other in the Lisbourne Po'ol:. "that..; the pez .... 11 .... an¢ p~esoux .co.?~,,un~catzo~ zn thzo re~.r.vo~..~, oucL .~m~ a. well may drain 640 acres space:-~ 640 ~cr~ s.. ~o,,rnz.~aee ~as, :cecognizing in. those zznczngs ~ x..~..reatl ' , ' -, iS ~:~'.~' ' 'vou.:.a. on ~C .' ,~ '- find in either o f:; ~i{'er2:~ "tha:e:":~:i't.:'; '~ii :-~.~¢,; .-~ ,.~ '...;':: "~ind::in on .cha'c..it sn uld and '~'" '~ ' lrZ .~' - ' " .... ~. cf~.2, n~ raav~oe you think; long ~,e'.eame lines th3t~'.we ar~ that, really ac this time you' dOn~t"2::ti'aVe'tlie ':.~,'~ ,~..' ..... =*-'- . . :-.,, ..wnzcn,.z~,~an be positively de~ermzned.~.,,..,.~hat' one -~o~zz wz~.z .... ':.,,';", ,., . .,': ,.:: :..'~.:.':.., ,/3.': :' .'.,,.f: . ,,.., .. . - drain "640 acres. ~:The danger~ of...eOUrse,.thag:We .see in 'Chis ., . , is: that --" in'the, first place, 'there'.'isn:'t'mnch evidence;.in - Cna'second place, some of the ev~dence..v, hi. ch.may have ~aen .. ', :,, : :,',. . .., . .:. . . ~'..aVaiiabie to:the,Conmii~:tee was;~no~~ available¢o. us and we not as'kzmz ~'~"~ ' ' ' '~:' ~ ,'~ '~ tn~ zt be made av~tilabie":because, .,,.~u~-~. e .~a,.~,i>:, ........... . . ~"- reis stage, o~ the proceed:cng, we ~.~:rt~q~ thatev=~='~ ~.~= in.' was . R &: R coURT F~EPORTE'~S "'~ ~'"'' ,, 277.47 ;.. . -6.- avazz~oie that it would not be definitive of the ,ue _ tNa'c one ;~ell would drain 640 acres. And, on the other hand, -,~=~e e disagree w~u~, the 'c we think that -- w~ ~ ~,:~ necessary, wa think that it s certainly ~i'ckin your power to order 640 acre spacing~ on the basis of this record. And all we ask is that the.real reason for iC be put ~n. And 7 i'm reading now -- this may be repeating some of the that British petroleum oz' Atlantic put in'the record -~ .'but ' i0 i! i~m reading from a Booklet called "General Rules and. kegu!a!gio~s =~ .~q~, ~onservation o~ Oil arrd Gas "~hich ~as prepared by ~ the Re~zuiatorY .Practices Cm~miti:ee of:~i~e :lutersua~e Oil Compact Commxission ~n 1969. And it -- I'm sure you.,ali ~" ' .... "boolciet. It goes in~o a ~eat deal of detail as to ho.~:cke i4. 15 17 2i 2'5 ~ ~ ~d gU]'aned. Basically~ '~hey propose~ spacing of wells or.recon~ne~Id' ~a-sort of.:a three-stage approach'to it. "%' ~f~r~n~' '.~otage:'..,of course,, is your' Statewide'.l{ute.~ . You already ........ = that. And that ~is adopted to -' quite"frankiy~ on sor~ ......... '~ , ..... ~"~ '.t'have any evident . .. , .. ,r-,u..~ ,., just adoOt, something, '~ out o~.controL.before, you do have the answers, The secona .... ~ .... zs aztez::th discovery :.:.:': ' . . . : . :.:::"'~ .~ '~:.. :, .... .:. . , ~-' o~,~"he, ~ dLsCo:)~y~ = , , Wel~:Ln..'~ a new' ~ese~vo'L~.., ..,'":'~he:~:a~erteF~ .. ...s~aL~. " ' ' ~' ' .... ' " " "" b ~':;isned ~ pa~..nb aha,. dr=.~iing . '- ,~,.: .:.. , ,.. [ :- : ."~/ , ;;~ 7?,47 ~ 3 '" ¢ ( -7- 8 result in providing with the smallest possible number of wells and within the shortest possible time, all information pertaining to the reservoir and its.:, contained ,'-,~e~s as may · headed, in order to determine a proper ,gerraanent plah of drilling: wells on. , and atiocat'~,~:,-- production' to, the various .. se2a~ate lease holes, or pooled ~ ' · un~ as' in said reservo:~r." And I'll admit that in my proposed finding i borrowed a lot ~rom that statement,' We feel that~he--weii,'' ~.,,a~..'-'ch~~s4 s~o¢¢e~=,5 of the proceed~ ~ ' '- ~ znos =rom an engineering ~:tandpoint i dOn~t '''c' anybody can say what one wel~...w, zlt drain. '..But v~e certainl'¢ Chat '640 ~,.aet' Chat '~he case wnzcn was put on does establish -' '~' ..... . ...... - ...... :-. ....... ' ....... ,,':%;~ c".,.~ , ~;. ,~ ~.' ~" , ...... . ...... · T.: :'2r,~ :,?L/pT','.'~;,.,:,',p,,:.W.'~, L,; .'..~,,'.7~%,~ ;3. :': ~.: , ;...".'~ ~.?" , .acre spacing 9~ili probably resOlt in g=ut:..ng.d~e znzormation ..yoU. do need with the smallest n~ab'er of wells and in the 'shortest .period of time.,.' Perhaps even,.as one party' t~,e!ve hundred' and eigh~yacre spacing might do 'i.t. with fe~,~er ~;Je!!s in a. snorner tim~, but nnzs ~s.a question':of ~udgment. We certainlY'~can.~t argue, uith the '~'~-' e" , - p~,c,~pl ,-th. at by ~.iae spacz, ng in the initial deveiopment,.you,.do',iget the ,.'.neceoo~=ry information, And you.,.~et it, in.a hurry. And this~ :.,.ciuite frankly,' 'gantlemen~ is our: argument..on that,' i might explain a little Y further', on 'our'. order. -~'.'if yoU. put. this f i'nd~'~ ~_na in.-- I'.reatize that. in some sca.ues cory do Provide u mpo~=y,.o~der,'::'as you, did,:'that expires'.i..:'aUtornatical~£y' within a l.i,aited per'iod 'o¢ time. For.instance', .~ un:.n[< ~ew i ~.. o.£tow-C~us,::: Order actually make~;-'-,:, it in the r.o~4,,,' ~ ..... of o~ ,- .,._ COURT g77,gT~3 I0 12 -8- that within that limited period of time you have to come in - s~o~ cause why it shouldn't go back to the statew-~e rules,. . I don't t~-~,,_~ that that's -- well, that New ~,~exzco fins what you ~ve hare in Alaska. As far as we're conce~.~e~ nn you .~ou2d put in the .finding which we recos,.~mnd> that zs~ rne o40 acre spacing, will ='- ~ g~ the-information that you do ne~c.~ as rapidly as posgible. You don't need' any definite deadline on the Order. Ail of your orde}:s are~ in a sense~ temporary · because they. can.a!~ays be changed. And we feel since zt's almost imposs{bl.e to predict when development ,~i!l~have all this informa~ on -- and i~d be wzzizng to bet no~ tha~, months ~ '= not goin o.~ ~- ~ g to 'be.there in nine' months~ '13 ' 17 18 Or,ders .that ha-~'~', ~ the nine months basis ,:'and .,do at: the' end.lof nine. months is extend.it, we feel that. you · . rnzgh~: as well 'recognize thzs. and leave yo~r:Order Leave it so that-a't such time" that some party :"feels there,' zs su~.~.~_cien'~'ev.idence upon. which you can ~ase a .~v~Or"',"-~p~s~r~ sms~n~ for the oool'. ~then'ietr~,~m.,c'~-~'~ .... o~'~.e .~'~ and - sho?; you. rt axay be 6~0 acres and if *~e.~re '~luck.y~,'. you may' not :"even have to haVe "any . fur ther hearings; you.may.,continue .to . :, ~.operate under, that.., 640 acre spacing, qu~.c~"='-e so sure in the Li.sburne field that it will: 'be'~ ,./...- .- -.', ~..,,~= x.~ x,~i!.t':.'be '-- z.~ 6 ~0 spaczng .r,~il't:"'dO it'l~"~'t~a '. . ,:,,~ ~,::~ve ,~ ox~ ~=.~d that it will be more profiSabie.,to develop .: . ~ . and or::.t,.~:tuce n i.f w~, have to go .:,.,o io0 ac.~..Sp~c,=,, ; · .,.. i6 17 20 .,, hope ii, at 640 acre spacing will do -,'" ' ,-~. But at this tzn'~e ~e can't say and I don't think that anybody can say. But I , we feel tlmt with th~ change in findings that ~,je propose you i r?,~_g~t as ~el! enter an Order tl~t reraains in effec~ un'~i. ~h~ sorae evidence tha~: sho~s that it s~u.~ be ~ ~,~e~ And the final one -- in substituting this -- for .tP-e p~ovision ~ -' a temporary orde. r~e propose -- '~it is further ordered ~ch. at th~ pool limits and well-spacing hereby established may 'be' changed or m~ty 'be made p~rmanent ~it'h or w~thou~ . upon. the apptica'~ion,~'of;any owner..of lands within~' ~t~ pool'~ a~,~ez''nonice and a' hca"= - w and b d upon the ~=ng as required by la ase vidence p~oduCed.at, said.hea~ing ~ ActUalt~...y. ou p~obab!y The -- our reason for pu~ting it.in is we uo.~z=ez~nnat a party seeking to cnan=e ~,ese rules ought to' be 'party whose az~e 'afzected~and that~ maybe you should put.-i in the order ~e~.f : some notice' .~ ~z~ other ~'~ords, !'msaying' t~'~e~" re "~-. it sha,~..i be ,a~o~.~ t~e application of an owner of land within ',the pool. don~ think that someone ~ho just disagrees"in prin~ ~ ~= wno~a property righLs ara no~ affected ~no, u~kava any s~andin i~avbe ~i should point out that ~e.:a~e an o~ne~ o~ ~ands~ either ~.~ithin zn the proposed pools, or i~nedia'tely a~jace~., ~ them.. OUr p=operty rights are 'affected bY each:~;of',''these o?d'~rs and pre lose to a ~u.ndred million dollars 8 " 10 11 17 18 25 dous~ -- here=D=in~~,~'-~ I'm telling You the resui~s'~- of ~ .... = of ~ es th e ' ' - o~ and g~s ,-:~s ,_ g~l r earth ill for · . rzgnt to dz ,:Al '3 - - . a proper'.-,~ r~_g~; zt is entitled to the r~rotection of the la%,~ 'ut_ has to be -- ~-,=~ it .'s taken away from you or ~,:~,.~,~'~-=~"~='-~ zt' ~,.- _ has ~o be done by due process. And~ on the other ~ ,.~n~c tha'~-, a person whose rzo~:.~..are non directly a:fect~'d ~,~,~r he should have the .authority ~o change E Zhink the Committee itsel~ represents ,~he general public zhat kind of a situation, i seriously.question whe~'~e~, a. man who j usu na?p~ns to be a citizen of the Staue oz A!asl~ can come in and demand a hearing on this.and make the pa~+ies~ bring :~>: '~.,..,:,.'.,,.~. ~ :: %,:~ .: ,~..' ::.. . .'' , :.,,:,::~q: ...... :,.., : ..... , ~ .: ~:., :,;, 'x..~ ~:'.:,'~;.,: :'~ :. , ,:.~,:, ,..:..,. ;', :, ', ~ -. . .i-n al! their evidence. This, qui.te].frank!y, is:one .reason - viden e i'm a !ittie af.zaid f you~.finding Which is based.upon e some of which is in uhe records~ and some'of which is not .:~ ~/~ . .. do'n:~ ~- ~-,,,~ v ,.,.~ ~ have any off Cb: evidence ourselves =igh:'.now, ~. . . .have. And we.ffeel that until such time aS the party .~:at has une evi. denae is prepared to pzoduce:that'eithe~ in epposztzon - . ':. ~ ~ ~"~' ~,'~-e o' ,: :eques2 th. at or in support of the request ~o... ::~ ~a~,~ : ~ .. ' '~'~ they., snou!d be. permitted the ~:,.les be maa: pezmanent~ th'at ': , ~<eep that ~nzormauion confidential-.a ':' a ~. s...~.ono as fou do ~.:v~ this o'thez reason which is that you're 'trying to'get :b.e information . :,~.,:Lth as few a number of.wells and in as .short a ~time as possfb[e. , . . Now~ gen~z=me~., that's pretty short,, but'l~m here to answer ' . ' . ' .",a~- :~ yet any question:~ I might state in advance that. we ha~-~ ~ ,.~:...:..sd a well %n th. at area, so ,we oon t. 'have ~,.ty~- ' '~¢~,.~o,,~,t '* ..... ion & R COURT R~PO~TE[~$ WEST EIGHTH AVENU~ -- ~IT~ ~ ANCI~ORAGE; ALASKA g9~Ol 14 .... .- our own. We have some informatio,~,, as to some ~z.'~"-'=n~ wells. ~ame pc~m~ion that Au~n~c Rmck~xu and BP ama~ our wmtness ,,~, not aestify as to any~h~no· on any o~ anne ~n%orma':;ion But on the '~ec,:~l questions, i'11 answer anv~hin$ you ~ antiemen have to I~t. BL~RELL: Thank you, Mr'.' S'wan. T'd_ ~'i '~0 CO'~'" '~ -- ~ .... ~ .... ~.~t'you for the record~. zn writing:this ~:c~e~ nne ~-' '- except what ~as Conraittee considered no evidence w~,a~soe'ver, of *'~,,.=~ hearing.. ; o the r in the record/ ~;~:~ did not at any tzme refer to any/evidence ,, available to the CO~mnittee. ' ','~R'~.~/,~',.,'; "~:' ~.,r~.'~;'~ ' ~n~{T::'.FR/:.','%'i~'.~'r :'-.'A. ' /;~,~.~ ,~, .'¢': r,-;, "q{~",*~:%Yh'[l, ~ ~J[ ,,~,~ :J. 2;k~%:(;yl~ ...... ;r",.';i,,~h ~:,. SWAN: Well, i'm sort''.'--' if. ~' ~ ..... say ,. ,' , ,, ,.:. ,., ,. ...... ;~ . ,., . ~,:~. ~:~as based ~' ' '-' ~a, ~aaa ev~aence. Lea'me correc~-- I' said evidence_ you know and ~ know t~a~ there ~s other; evidence ' ~c:n you coUi'd' ha.va considered and ~.'...m a.::raza 'cn~, c ~n particula: E.indin:. a that; quzc-: franl~iy'~ a'.cour~ wou!.a say · ~ n~, to base the Order on .this`. ~indin8:, teen' you ::;.f..you"re go_ .o o.~ :o have aLL abe ev;dence availabLe. ~ .'.An, d ~" don"a you have ~o use tRis kind of a Fzndzng mn ~nzs stoa ...,, think of'the simpte':Fir~din, g that'.-' th'.at t~yzna to get definitive information wi~h. as ::ew. a .. n~.oe~, of v~el. is and in as short a time as po~=sible'~ is all the ' you need ',to 'P~' ., ao. And thi's .may be c mzng u .i.n other ff.~ ............... ~. ,-,:ac it may be an importan~ ~ ..... ~ ,~mztt=~ .to. es tab .L~.~:,n -- -!2- , b-~ es,-~biished w~-:- ~ _ ~ . =~out nnving to have definitive in~o~t'~ - .t -- i'n horse it liable to be out of the barn befora -- before you can~ es=~olish your spac~nS. P~ BUP, R~LL: T=~an~ ou~ o~ the Co~m~ittee have any questions of Mr.~,~,~n~'~. ~ or any of the advisors? Mr. Swan. ivY,. GiLBiU~TH- ! have two' or threa questions ii. .15 17 i8 bURRELL Go ahead, ~.~..= ~. . .',~. . :. ~..: , , · .* .' .,":..i,'..lF~':.i .."'., ~- ' ' ' :s''.': 0"' :l '. zn ~l,e case oz Order $3A and nine month time limit ,on Phere -,, ~ ,, ~ ,,r~':'-~t{r,o.~_._,,,.,e~ {ihat the Ordez~ would expire unless extended bY . tn,:~t"" not~ signify to you tha'~ it is not of a t~,:~'-'''',~,'''~'~,~'~''~,.~ .... :~, . I Z don'~.t '""" Except. 'they went further, I ~:'hink, ~.~--=~,~.~ e~.~...~.~.~y una?; i~ ~uzo expize nine mont:hs,..o~ ~whatevez ~he pe;czoa; unl~s tkey show cause that .it should' be extended. In osher. . ,. v~ords.~ they couldn't -- your ,order .says i'c~:~ ii:tu~ b~::;tte:r g~t. at Leas,~ lets ,,h~= Connnittee e~>~ .......... ANCHOF~AGE. ALASKA 99501 ¢' -13- ,3' Ii 14 15 ;.6 2O i i usu zeel much as I ~' . , ~ ..... 3oy coming co Alaska -- thare'~s no poin~ in havinS this brau t up.n~.,.~ mo~,o in wyoming they ~-ave -- they ac, opnee one esta~-~4~-'~''?~,~_o,~,~ a temporary spacing ..... ever,;,'~h~ n:~.;._. 'cn~};' do is tempozary -- e.~o~,teen months, z could p:~t my on-- i.s zt one year now? -- i could put and t~e would testify that hearing aftez"he:::;::'inS ~-.~"~y - ' DOS~ we go up there ~- it ~s set on.the.docket for the put o~ eons~ering~:= w~hether th~s Order shat!~'be 'exte;~a~=~. and . so~,.~=~me~ ~ ~s moa'; fied they~e always extended. And" ......... ~ = ....'~'~'ey .',.'-', :,~,~. -,i,,:~. %,_.,,., .,.,,,:.- .,;,. ...... ;,~ ,~, . ,,~ v ,~.,x~ k%,',h~."_~,,~:>:~,,,,,,..:'~,,¢3v" t;;:r, but it'seems to me that' youke making =o,.ne unnecessary work~ ~o~.h for yourselves, and for the trying to guess, in advance .how long the Ozde~ should for~'~mti°n.~ currently~ 'the operators ~,-,:~e~.=.~ ~.,~ ~nfo"~"; ..... _{on ,-' ~e ! il know curren'c&y~ I thzi.~ that when ~,h~. ~z~,,e cum=°, it, so v~hy"not just leaVe zt an.uz~-z. ~,.~,~ -~.~ ...... o effect until such time ='~-'v =~. ~ ~ '"o~,~",' ""~-~:'~% affected pa=ty feels .it should.be changed, v- were tryinS to get at the same:~n~ng.~, '~ us thinl< your nine months period is a . · - '~'%~elt~ ~nere may have'beenTother. ~'~' zo;. ~n.~ COmmittee sett'''~ zr~g zb at.'vnine.-~.~oha, ns ~ too. yes ~ well - i! 16 I? 21 ]6. Buc ,anuer our rules for calling a hearing, could 'be cal~ed · . ~ nyona ' ~' = ~ at any .ime by a mn ~,.ss than months if that were necessary, could it aot~. Certainly. Swan, you're an attorney~ sea, -if_ i can c:et some ie~~1 advice her~ 'Under AS 3~05~ Oo ~0 antz'u~.=~ .... ~ Action 'by the Depa?tment, it says ~the de"--~'~ .~ p~,~tment may act upon its own motion or upon the petition of an ~nc~reo. te6 ~:~erson and this sentence ~*on the filing of ~na ju=zsdiction a petition conaern~ a matter withia '''~ "' ' ' ~na departraent under ~ this' .Chapter ~.the'depar ,': ,.,: ,'i .,,, ~:,. L ,:,; ;r,,:'~: ',, ,' ,'.,.: ' :~,:, :; 't,:, ,T'.'k,',;:: ;:~:,~';;., , -~... shall promptly fix a date for a nea~zng an~'.snaxl ca. usa ..'.noCice.,for. said hearing. C° 'be,gzven..' '" '~. ........... .Do you u~,z''~ ........ ~zuo~~ ~. ...... ',, ,~'-,.~r. Swan, . to. ca ].i a' hear 4 ,-'~.~,.,,a '.ts' '- .any..' person :files an'app~zca~zon with us. on spacing in this pool? o~, i"..a n ~ think you'.cani'refuse, ..... to:'.,. .ca i.L'" ' ~ a ~";.,ea,z~,g.~' '"'~¢"~ .' . , and I .think i't would be poor., policy,.. ~ if yu,~.~,-':~'~;'~"a~u.. ~,oug~.,.. ~h~,t was ~nat.v°u were advocatim~"~ ' ,, .,, : ,.. · ~ · in advance that '~rsybe he Won.~"":"' ~"~' ". ..... ,':'~"~ .-~te'-' ':~':. sympathetically as a man whose zzghts.'ar~ ,~o, i .tr~znk--wez;., even if you had ~"~* ,'. ~-, ~ that .YoU, not'. refuse' tO..'hOld ~=comm~nc, . ~ua~.,;.y ~,a~, an interest. DOII~'t:' .e ¢ 2 i0 ii 13 16 I? i8 23 24 hearit-':. I.'m sorry if I gave you the impression -- Oi~a?. Ii misunderstood your -- A -- that you should cut him off. guess t,aa~ s all i m,~ve rlgh~ now. . . Mr Swan the language of our Order zs that-"it a?pear"'~..ng tha~' and then the statement conce:~ning ''~ spacing. We~ of co'ur se, feel' with .the word~ appe~.,_~gq this gives further qualification to the statement and that are made with the 'best information at :'"nr~a~ .... part . ..n'~':,L',tU":t~'~l, ¢,.'.' ~,,U t' ' ...... ":, ,%' ,L ' ;," ",ri,t" S~ ~:~ , r': ~ ~:~i~?.. :,./~,,, ,,v :: ',.~ '~,~e .,.,~ ~' ;",F,'%~,' ~ .,4 .~, r-',~k".'~[", ;d ..~,,~ .' , ,, .......... ....... %'~;~J q ,:~. ~ ~ '~'~' U' zznztzve, aspect'to that' time~ so d.~s is a xur~ner de statement. A Yeah ~ ~" '~ z .a''''~'~ you. The :only.. thing'l~m saying is that you're ~aking. ~it.'appesr as though real~~ . . ~ ~vou hartz have this engineering inforr~ioh befor~e:~,~ ..~"'~,.~ c~o. ~ ' ~' t °u'va done in this case. '~And'.i~m telling you '~ ~- illdon ~ -~ to have. una~ . lng t tn. ink you even have '" ~"~' ,~"~','""~ "-,e="~~,..~:~.~.-~_ zn~orma'cz' ..... o'n. '~ ~m '-etling.~ ,~ you tha~ I'"' think . ~ ~,,., ~:, ?. for the purpose of getting that' engineering ;.informat:ion,. you can require this initial'wide spacin, g And '" .. . .................. !ish the 'pred~de~t ~=,u. som. e o'f hat,~ ~o see you esc~o =" .... ' ....... . .... .will come back a~.,~. ~:s~ =. . r', > .... , ~, ~..~..s. case . "'~*'~ ...... :se ~- ~'" ~..,, i y,~ ~.~ve ..~0 have .e;.v: :.n t:~,,~ · don : )~_,u: .'~,e ...., ,'-,, ~_-:{-.nee:: . . i0 }I 13 i7 23, -L6- other wozds and i..n yo~::r. . t~,'-e,,~ .... ous Order .,v°u:~' requi,-.':-;~..,~enSz,.,=~'" - "'::~'-i.n o. infoz.ma'~ion before.' you did it. v ~.~,, say"~_,.~o,": ~; '~:,.',::: ............ ~ ~ ~ -~' ".:-7 you can a,aogt this kind of a rule on the same <,_~.~ o! tn~t you used in adoo'c'~.n~,~x. ~ .o the o~=,,,,e-~°+-.+~ , wide rui. e t.o start ~ith. i think it ~s impo~::"z-',';-~:,,.. that you have ~'~ because .% kno,w in some states az*umenE..o zs ma~e wztn some success Chat you cen~t, space ..... ' , : ,l, -~ ~ ".'",' ' - "':' until you've ~,n~- this ~'~'" ~-. - ~ineering, evidence ant ~. think. : you'~ve got..a sta'~ute t~ta~'s broad '- ,~no~4g~ 'cna. t you can an~ ~ ,~ zzme 'to'see you use tr~a~~,o~,.~.,~,'.'-,~<~ BY 'PiR '~"T~'~.:'''''~ ~ , , '~ .... x. ~ like I-o exolo-,::~ '''''~' ~'~" 'if .~' ,-, may. yes, - ' .~,,..,.,~ue ~,.~,:: .......... ,.-wou~.d be p~..?'.~::cy Nard WEST ~IGHTH AVEiNt. J~f; -- ~U~TE ~ 277.4713 ANC:-;O/:iAGE. AL.A~KA ~DDOi Y h ii ---I h-a -2: vi -- 7- S u �,- L J-'.. �,ills W,*-7, :L L A. A. 0 z- d er Would, -iave a lc)-,-- chance of Ina, v -17, e C ur IM, o c, k its clown jins E-D-fe-sea- -"or OL a s a mr-,. --u m P, c omm. i e P. d C! ink In e o c o u-,t Nv o u 1 d e v e n s n b e C-* a i s e, thiok i ';s Cly W t1n; d e f i nit a c I por e,,, wha C a s a. ma L- `E, r 0 II y hpi,-, e o is E: LI U Y 61, e, c, L 0 A s da 101,i 1J. L v 3 4" 1 i,4,-. o f 'the S" V. 14 n 0, e 'aL L e V DU L'1'0��I' L a v e il p C) ke L 2, 10 US e 90 Lni L 0 p e. a t in t In a'. s e a s,c,4 a e r LI v e I'.- rk e vo u n d; vrl 9 F. e r e� Ow n t nk w u 4 d say W !,C) tz�F. S, *4 3 u r e. c q u. ail., c. a J y y cl I'%a ve Fj 1. v- t a s p r e o a CZ! I U L Y VIE uc n e a..a C I onIO, I CDee IbM in r 1'ud , t chy SO • j m e, a s '�I C! I t:, wo Ld s uj n d u 'er Zt C PAC) j b. r ar:c, pqU 1 it C bu v Ir 1�,E.P&R` 3 WtS T EIGH -1 AV, PiUl U A 'iRAC '. ALA8kA I' C Hit L -!8- ,. T So:ue of ~hem c~,~-~C be. sup2orted by evi~: ...... ~- ~ ~ 'ghau one {,~2i]. wiii drain "230 acres .-- you h.avc 'go ac'~z kLlo~g =,.,r sure~ but you do 'kr~ow :~':-",~' ' .... .~ ~i'~,.a~ tNe bes~ .way ~o .Set the evl. d3nce as soo'~i as ?ossibL".a .,, ~.,-~c-~ , ~,'<.~e SL~r~ C~l.~ ~' ~.k..,;;~ ~g~L~ ~ .,*~,~ , ,;~.~,., SP,~C.,...~:~.~... ~,.~ ....... , ' ,., :, ~ ~,' ' .-' , ,., ,,, ,, ; ,. , ~, .~ [, "..~,,..', : :, ,' ,.,,' , ',~., ,;, . . '. ......... ., u". ,.u..,: ~ /.', . , ~ . .. ,~ . . ,, ~ ,,, ., , . , ~ '-. we can:o~/,~.xa~e [),~ooaozy for severat'vear, s . . ,.',~ ,/, Orders. ~e~:ore ",'.=,,~= can tore. anyoocy can. sho,:,.~, a i"'." . .,~,.,. [~ vou.l,~,,d a,o~her reason haas 'tl-i,are wo "-: 'be enousR ~ ~,, ~ · 2 :LO i? ~,.~'.",'~r. Swan ~ talk'inS about this ~¢:~a=-ssacznS. co c,- ~.~:,pzc definition same u~,,.~.",s., 'be ar?tled~ in suppozu A We ~n~:,~d; m;O..~ e ~iian ~,nau ~ Zf you ~re ualkirm: Middle GroUnd Snoa~? !.?e ~'- -~ ~.~z" ~Is dr~l~: .... i, cAear off tl-~ s{:ruc'{zu're so rx~e did bav~ . ,et a~~ ' " ~,c~ ¢~e have .~ ~,~e wai:'e arguing on 'the basis .. enoug]rl evidence t;o 'know ~.-s ~ s c~.~a~ ~,.,ii8 str~..;~u~..e i"o ....... ~:u,.~.:~:~ that .~o~,~ acre :~'~oaci. n~x, ,~ is soing to move us Clear / 2~n~{ it d~ ~ ~ ,',',': "~ 'F~ ., ~,,,c~ was t,~'v~,''~'~,' to' ~,~:~t back to 'thi" ( -20- 8 I0 ii 18 21 22 out'way as the other? yes~ sir,. but, as i say, ~e -- we put on pretty corn. pre- hensive testimony,both from wells and structural pictureI , t-o suppo,;.*t the evidence and until the operator is entitz~c to do that, I don't think he's engitled· to as!~'~oz~ a BY 1.fi{. BilRRELL: Mr. ~vJan~*'." we have the testimony",°fan~.expert witness,..- ~r. B. ~, Anderson, ;Richfield Co~a~/ans~ . : w~x~ch appears on ,Pag=s ~58, .~59~ ~n~.60,ana. pao'eo 66 of the . ..;) ~.: ~: ..2~'udhoe Bay Hearing'~:~,::~: wi. tt~'respecg-:.no, tn~.~. Sadlerochig' Pool that's'.Order 83B~ .~'And onPages 63 ~'5 of the same H ~ ' ..... ~ peet to ~t~e Lisb.nmne.Pool, that~a Order. ear~ with res 83C~' Nox,~J we will readily admit that the.evidence was . . not conclusi.ue~ however, we do ~ e ~ . ~av ~ t~e,: testimony an expert witness that as indidated;>in the~'Fi'ndings that a weii~shOuld or would, or ~y drain those areas- you he;ye any evidence -- a scintilla of "evidence to . -. A i don't 'have a scintilla of evmdonce to bug i uas not permitted to ,Cross-examine that witness ~:':~"and,he did not. pro'duce a-l'l Of~:the evidence ava ilab le ". to i:iim., They had wells-which penetrated '~ the Lisburne Pooi,~ . ~.~ey said, .out .they pzoduced'noching except ct.a2 man R & R COURT RE~ORTERS . ' B2~ WE~T EIGHTH AVENUE ~ ~UIT~E ANCHORAGE, . ~," 8 10 15 . -21- testimony. , That's not the best ePidenCe. That's not - competent testimony. And this is what l,~think -- this is just whe~.~e I think you're get ' '~ ' . . , .tlno yourself in trouble by baSing it on testimony~when the man wh° testified has not put on the evidence. How' can I cross-examine the man when the testimony on which'he.bases -' I mean, the fact's'- the .: basic_'i, factual data uponi:<whiCh.he bases his .opinion is. not~,.ev n. avazlable; ~;~Q' '"',~;~, Mr,.;', Swan'~ ' this~ is :, not 'an 'A ~ou nave,.,no~ ,, ~"~' "~' ~ >,'> ri :. to ross-examination .. [',. u -' :, .,. . , ...... '~'" ..... .~. .- r, .... ,.I, would disagree Wigh.;..you".on ;.t. , :. .... ., .... ~ .~ zs::~an:,a eedin /on' :"th~ if one: dve.~ ,P clari lng 'it:s not:~'an . It.'s -- olle o~ ,~ ~"!~" indica '-' ' 'cee; in your, · rdance ~.~ith Rule :2009 meant' - 7¸. 12 for the Hearing to belheld in that-form and this is nat i,..;,..i.i~-:..~,Alaska itawYer.. . ', '~,~,IWe,'',, ,... qUite. .~ .frankly~]i~'were:~n°t~ ,·, ·quite ~sure. ':' ""'~" how to -- ho~to proceed in this matter,,, and the one. ~.h~.~tg , : ~ :.i;<: .:' ., reasonably` sure of ~:wa:s.//t}iei"'fae~.i~;~'~f~0dy at any ': time:, cail <'as k. "fha =: an/'O rdar ,,be :~:.:a'me~ded:,2'~:.'/:J}:A=d .': ,~qui't e ,: *, : ' frankl n of.'procedure..'~ little haZy'.on ~ ' S'ure."I _not too<,'~'c0n- · ~- ~ .... ce=naa abo=t' the procedur - I /..: ,.~:<>: answer': and 'what ' ,m a Hearing .under Title 3105080, ~ohich is Re-Hearing-- titled Re-Hearing and Appeals? I want to clarify that point fo~ the record-. Is this a Re-Hea''~.zno,~' under ~" statu~e I jus~ cited, or is-this'a Hearing under Section 2009? ' :' ' ,. ... rather have'Mr. Crews...~.answer tha'~. He's the you' b. ere is i:::~i,:,~..,I think<.~°ulVe ended'up., answer -- all you need' to':do~:iS put in'.the<: ~t~ that · ::prOceed rev <::. .~: ,. · ~c!~evea.~'anyaody.cou~d.,'call.. for 8;25 V;EST [;GHTH AV~NU~ '~ ~UiT~. ~ eWS , :'tha t:TYOU:',' A.. Then what is the necessity for~your~ last order that you · 'want added there? The last one that say's "it is further . ordered th'at the po°l limits and ~well-spacing hereby established nmy 'be changed or.maY~be ~made p~ermanent with Or wi"tl~°ut change ~ upon the/appliCation~:~°f' any'ow~er of ~i::'i~anclsll' W~tt~i~:the ~po° 1'a f t'e r? not~i'ce~'~a'm~ ~ih~a=i~g ~a s ~ required 1 .~ Upon~.: said ~. "'~ neCessitY,i t.ha . . . :...?,17: · , ...... ~i',,.' .. ~.:l s.:,i.stated .'i :think it's th'e' law.anyway. · tl~ink.?i~"S ecessa'~'Y'~, i kno~ that in some sta~:.s . .,~ .... ings:, his 'i.n an Order, s~,np~y °il operator the ~-rouble 8~-.b WES+ fiIGHT'H AVENUE:~ SUITF.. ti -24- exp~a~:ions? If you cdnld jUst. clarify.t-hat for'me?..~ : A Well, just simply'~-- I th£nk'you're makin'g~some unnecess work for yourself and' 'fOr us to:~have the operators come '!~':in and show you at.. the end of. tha~.:hine months that., the r ~.is no reason to change ; the Order ,and'then you?il'have · · , ,.t:o co. nsider it: and haue t:o~i, ent:er~a ne~ Order..' ~' ~sn~ '""~-. ere ain/i'f .. u'want to:.'~lea e ft/:.i ~ ~isn't.that ' . . ~ou' r.e 'n~kin . . · : d .for,~us when ration .'withou ....... "" ~ · ' .', '.- ' ik". '.'.!~? ~ " · '. . .~ isn't.' automati.¢ in'i..'th.a~:....we' could ~i'¢o.n''t'i'nu .. Concerned to . . g necessar: so~e hearth u~,a- I m nog ~.~oing :~,' > mmittee ·extends .~. ii;~' ,~ '!~ :'~ epare 'a . to'show you t :. ~OURT R ~PORTERS· such'. acreS.'~and fha . , It's not necessary. It's putting a .burden on the .. · · Commission to extend it that's not necessary. Quite frankly., I think some of the Other 'operators ought to · . ,b.,e arguing this one ·with you more..· than..·.-- more than ! should,.:'but it's -- well', it just seems.'to me that 'you'r' · trying to guess 'in-advance when you sh°'u~id':h, ave a hearin~ ,. ~i~:'' .~ . ,i,:' and.,why. :'..: ..not',' :~ait and let the have so'me-. g Orders· tha% m.~..gnt have"~a. ]: r; porary and yet' :he i?''''¥- ~: - '- ys 'chat, we're go~ng ~:o put r~a'n'e~t".Well.rspa,~, .... n~,'o · Well ~ ' th.e~e's .... . . ish per:ha~ ~ "l.-s. ~:~ ::~' ~hat you said in. abou~ e'i~i~to". ~'~i. ae .~'~ ~': I 1.., ~0 I~ ' when' i was writin'~.../Orders R COURT REPO[~"t"E:~$ 825 WEST EIQHTH AVENU~ ~ SUITE ~ i 64", 000 ac'rest. t ime'~':· .~. ',) -26- challenging them, we .used to refefl,to those Words, shoul · and may, 'as weasel -words. . .~.. --' '.:,~ -. · . y ere(Put ..Right. That.'s the way the '.'w .~n there,-Mr.-Swan. - .· I know',-I know. You're thinking ('J' st exactly .the same ':.~thing I am. 0nC'well may drain 1640 ac'les,'it may drain. I' d'on,t 'know'and -at.i, this) ':'~liS time, % which, is' .to..get %. · ' 'tl.". ..... " · ..... ,.~"' '"' .... :....' '.' ..i ;'..i ~..,.'. Well, yOu say "wnzch ~ill' tesult':.'in the most rapid · de~5 limits and the' most rapid , ,- . · . ,,.,.?, = :,, ,~ ~ ~,:..,:~,., ,. '~ ,~., t;::-~;.,,~, ' ' ' ..' ~'~i , Coup6 be.'based. '~'' ' ..... ... , "..] . .'.. .... · . ..."..; ... :..'. ~ . .. .. · . We "v~ ~""~ · ' · .. p S C . · ' . ,. 4.. 1~ .. . ., ~ ".' .. ~,at was available was resented. ~o estkbiish pa . . . , .. . and d assume ghat the next 'hearing . : .: ', ~..: ou' th ; ?st infot[nation available . · ..' ' . ' . .' .. .. l:, " r:my; .be' .- ' · '"k,- t at time ere [ .anothe,~ '.one. 2ou= yea · . :-b; ~',~, d'kf'= .... ...:: .... .. : ...,... ,~:: · %el" 7 f the Word, pern~unent ' ' """" : · . . . .. 'couRt' a zPoaq' a:;a s" '(;' .'" '. . . .ALASKA gg~Oi .' :. 3 · q bit. too strong there '-' ,:-.:: i:'"'-.~,' .. i think..:it'!s just about - ,i~'. make an observational! shou~.c~,- if i may ...... .::..,:..~. ,,~ : . .. : " ' ' - ' ' ' - .... ' ~,-,~,~'~ thag. 'Par~icular::fi~ding "~' . .... .:,':...~,.~ ,: . ." ,,, " t.'~. · ..., ' '.' ., .'., .... . ....... ~ ..... · '" ' · . Does an' ,ou .wrll, ,.a.e ecolog s,. pernmnen~, everyt] .. a t one .¸er m~ ~er, s any. questions' Crybo~ gake'...~h yourself k~ ~ere R & }~ COURT REPORTERS 82~ WEST EIOH~f'H AVENUE -- SUITE 5, . 277.47 ~ ANCH( ..... , ....... ~ ........... ~.........~....,... ,.~ ., ........................ ........................ . ........................ . .................. t emeist '.:i -28- ii~ would like*'tO make at the appropriate tzme ,, .perhaps :7"recess ' ? ~'' ''~- :~- ''~''~.." ' ""' '7: .~:i. "'~'~": - · ' " "" .. :... :.~ · . ~,~, BURRELL: .Weil,' "' why'" "'~'d6"n" z':·u. :we take' '"since · w.e seem to be.'/rUn'ming .out ~of conversation~ -~ don't we ~ta~e ~a'~en minuge '. recess'~ :¥'. ;"~'~'-'~.~:~:'?:~J' " . (OFF THE '~CO~ ./ l~Hl. HOLLAND': , :..' 'i.' · ........;...'. '...... ,... :...,': :,...,..:.,.:.::" .- .. · ...... . ...... :,...:. · . I~R BBliRELL' Fine .'I just wan~ ~o 'be s~re .' . we. get i~ on ~ape. ' ...... .... · . · ~ HOLLAND ' ' . ~ ....... ~.. : Do you want ~'~' ..... · ... . · . ....' · . , · · ~,c'~ B~(RELL: It's fine An2~'way. · .. i7 i! 2"2 i:': .... , ~'..'~,'~'c o u % d i do es .... ::;::i~i.' .'",,::~,,i:~ i:i'" ' il W .,!;il .x..n.p,~,. HOLLAND'. 'I am appearing kere.. '-:~'--~o.~ morn. in.. .... · ... ~ ..... ,%, 't _ O~ ~';~e ..... 0 .oj~ reading into thefr::~ zs hOC' su~:~.Zckeng da'~a'avazla~/e Eo Ene uo~2z~g~e o~.~x~ zndus~tv to reach a present .,, ,, ~ · . ...:' '.. 7.:. . 'efficiently drained'by one. .. .. . . .~-~: ",-= '0f :one. we'll' t'o ·640 pacl~,b ..... . . ~- . . . :..~ w. zlz result, in the. accumulation of ...... t-- ' . ~7.~ ,~ · .' .' ANOHORAGE,'~'.'ALASK~ ~9~0~' "' . . i ' ?":'7~' ' i ~.~ -.. ........ "' i! t · ~ 14 ~ .... · . ii ..,.. :'.'... ...... . .. !'.: .. ,:: .. :o ,:'~ ':~ '17 'i~ ·. :i'i' ' ' ' :. 18 ':~ .., ',' · ' 20 :.~ . . · .~ · ':( ... .~ 2i .... . . :.j .. , · ~ " 23 .~. ....... [-sPa¢ingi::cOhld be'based.' .,~At -.the':;same, time::: sUch spacing.. :?:,pennzoil. strOngly.:::.feelS: that.,ord~s: d ~. · . . · "...'. eempOrary u'neiZ' aaequae'e 'geoZog~ca~ 'and "'Ong~nee:c~ng 'da~a .upon . .. · '..... ,~ . ·. ., . ~ . . . · .. . ' ~h~ch ru~es, can'be 'baaed are presen~ed':to' ~he Co~¢tee '. . ... . . . . .. . · . ...'. ~i'":":"' 'm~ghe' add parenehee~ca[[y' ~hae ehe' key ~ord .~s .,expressed" on' ~ · . ' ...... · .. . · ,. . ' . · - . . . . · ..' '.. ~. :'. · .. .. · .. :~.~.. ''.. :-. . .. '. .... ~R. : Than o ';M and. . . · anybody have. any quese~ons of Mr. Ho~[and~." ~'.. .' -. . . . · . . " , · i~t. Bb~RELL' Would .you identify yourself? / . . ~ '. ... .. .. . ,. ,, · . .'. . '. . . : . ..; ~,~ ~' of Co~orafio Oi~ and Gas Corporae~on,'and I ~ou~d. [~ke . . ..' ~ ... ~ for ehe record ehae we ~ou[d ~ke'~o concur,in::'~he's~afemene ~ennzoil United. That also repre · .' ANCHORAGE, ALASKA 9~OJ .. :' ... ' ' .., . . . .. -. MR.~ BURRELL: Thank you, Mr~.G~ieman. Ar'e.ther!a · · any other 'additional parties wishing:t,O...make:statements, ask,, questions? ',:.ANY member of the committee?/ ilAnybody,at tt~? table .. . . here, haVe. any questions at all? '.Adjonrned:.'J:~ , ~' " --~. END OF tiF-~RING -. . · . ,: ;:;. g77.4713 ANCHORAGE, ALASKA gg~OI ' PENNZOIL UNITED ANCHORAGE OFFICE · PHONE (907) 279-7812 SUITE 722 · FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING · ANCHORAGE, ALASKA 99501 HERMAN LOEB Area Representative February 26~ 1970 Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee 3001 Porcupine Drive Anchorage~ Alaska 99504 Conservation Order 83-A Prudhoe Bay Kuparuk River Oil Pool Conservation Order 83-B Prudhoe Bay Sadlerochit Oil Pool Conservation Order 83-C Prudhoe Bay Lisburne Oil Pool Gentlemen- Reference is made to the recent request by Pan .American Petroleum Corporation for reconsideration and modification of Conservation Orders 83-A~ 83-B and 83-C. Pennzoil United~ Inc. very much appreciates the tremendous amount of research and diligent work ~.one in this regard by both the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee and the several o~erators. Pennzoil Un. ited~ Inc. feels that suffi~'e cz ~nt data has not been presented to the Committee or the industry to reach a present determination as to the optimum area which can be economically and efficiently drained by one 'well. It does appear that initial well spacing of one well to 640 acres will result in early definition of the areal extent of the field which Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee February 26, 1970 Page 2 in turn will result in accumulation of data u~on which a more refined and equitable order establishing well spacing could be based. At the same time such spacin~ will not interfere with proper development of the field while protectin.~ correlative rights of the lessees in the field. Pennzoil also strongly feels that orders for all pools in the subject area be expressly recognized as temporary until adequate geological and engineering data upon which rules can be based are presented to the Committee. Your consideration of our position in this regard will be very much appreciated. Respectfully submitted, PENNZOIL UNITED, INC. B. C. Sinclair STATE OF ALASKA, ) THIRD JUDICIAL DISTRICT, ) ss. being first duly sworn on oath deposes and says that. .. ]~i?i-~ ..... is the .... .]].o~?.~L....~.i.~i2kof the Anchorage News, a daily news- paper. That said newspaper has been approved as a legal news- paper by the Third Judicial Court, Anchorage, Alaska, and it is now and has been published in the English language continually as a daily newspaper in Anchorage, Alaska, and it is now and during all of said time was printed in an office maintained at the aforesaid place of publication of said news- paper. That the annexed is a true copy of a .... as it was published in regular issues (and not in supplemental form) of said newspaper for. period of ..... .0.~ ...... insertions, commencing on the ....J.] .... ;day of ...~Lf..e..b...r.-.u.~.~..Y-..;19 ](.0.., and ending on the ....... .'L.] ........ day of of ..]?..e.]).~.i:?~.r.,~ ......... , 19 .... both dates inclusive, and that such newspaper was regularly distributed to its subscribers dur- ing all of sa.id period. That the full amount of the fee charged for the foregoing publication is 2364 the sum of $ 28.00 which amount has been paid in full at the rate of 25¢ per line; Mini- mum charge $7.50. Subscribed an~I/sworn to before · Februar me th~s ....~1/. day of .................... , Y Notary Public in andS'or the State of Alaska, Third Division, Anchorsge, Abska /~/)COMMISSION EXPIRES ../..4 ,,...Tz I~IOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING STATE OF ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF NA'rURAL RESOURCES DIVISION OF OIL AN~D GAS Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commit[ee. Conservation F~le No, 83 Re: The application of Pan Ameri-" can Petroleum Corporation for: an order amending Conserva-i tion Orders 83.A, 83-B, and 83.C. which are for the Prudhoe Bay~, Kuparuk River Oil Pool, the Prudhoe Bay Sadlerochit Oil Pool. and tho Prudhoe Bay Lis-' burne Oil Pool respectively. Notice is hereby given that the i Pan American Petroleum Corpora-; ~ion has petitioned the Alaska Oil land Gas Conservation Committee for a hearing pursuant to Title II, I Ala~ka Administrative Code, Section 2009 and for an order: l' 1. Amending Conservation Order No. 83-B to delete Finding No. to wit, "Tlte Permeability and pressure communication In this leservolr is such that a well should drain 640 acres." % Amending conservation Order No. 83-C rules to delete Fin,ling No. 6 to wit, "The permeability and pressure.. communication in this reservoir: is such that a well may liratn! 640 acres." Substituting £or each o£ the afore-.. said £indlngs ll~e following find-, ing: ,, "There is not sufficient ,eVi- dence from wllich to deterniine at this ~me the area wl~ch can economically and efficiently be drained by one well in said pool, but tl~e ~vidence does est~bDsl~ tl~at an i~2tial well spacing one well to each 640 acres will result in the most rapid defini-' tion of the pool limits and most rapid accumulation o~ the~ ~ormation upon w~ich an or- der establisl~ing permanent Well spacing could b~ oased, and promote orderly flevelopment the pool, assist in the preven-} lion oi waste, and protect the correlative rights of lessees in. the pool during the initial velopment thereof." . , Conse~ation Orders NOs. 83.A ,and 83-B ~ delete the j follow~g order: "~ ~ FU~TI-IER ORDEI~D ' T~T 'tim rules hereinbefore set f01%h ~hall exph'e nine monks from the date of this J order except as may be extend-~ ed by the Committee/' J ~en~ng Conse~atlon O[ders Nos. 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C by afld.} ~g the follo~ng: "IT IS 'FURTHER ORDERED ~tAT the pool l~its and well spac~g hereby established may be cllanged 01' may be .made~ permanen~ ~i~h or without' change upo~ She app'.cation of~ any owne~ Ct Iands within the! ~ol, afte~ ~oi~o ~ hearing[ upon ~ho ~d~a p~o~U~ at'~ said hear~g~ A public hearing o~ ~'~ be held Fehrt~;u'y ~:s 1970, mot'iai Building, Third £';agle Street, Anchorage, which time at'£eeted a'nrl parties %,ili l~o heard. Thoma.q R. 5[arshall, or, 2ExccuLive Secretar7 ,: Alaska Oit and Gas Conservation Committee 3001 Porcupine Drive Aff~horage, Alaska 99504 ~l'ublish:~Feb. 11, 1970 ~o~ce No. .. NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING STATE OF ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION OF OIL AND GAS Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee Conservation File No. 88 Re: The application of Pan American Petroleum Corporation for an order amending Conservation Orders 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C which are for the Prudhoe Bay Kuparuk River Oil Pool, the Prudhoe Bay Sadlerochit Oil Pool, and the Prudhoe Bay Lisburne Oil Pool respectively. Notice is hereby given that the Pan American Petroleum Corporation has petitioned the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee for a hearing pursuant to Title II, Alaska Administrative Code, Section 2009 and for an order: i. Amending Conservation Order No. 83-B to delete Finding No. 5 to wit, "The permeability and pressure communication in this reservoir is such that a well should drain 640 acres." 2. Amending Conservation Order No. 83-C rules to delete Finding No. 6 to wit, "The permeability and pressure communication in this reservoir is such that a well may drain 640 acres." 3. Substituting for each of the aforesaid findings the following finding: "There is not sufficient evidence from which to determine at this time the area which can economically and efficiently be drained by one well in said pool, but the evidence does establish that an initial well spacing of one well to each 640 acres will result in the most rapid definition of the pool Conservation File N°. 88 - 2 - February II, 1970 limits and the most rapid accumulation of the information upon which an order establishing permanent well spacing could be based, and will promote orderly development of the pool, assist in the prevention of waste, and protect the correlative rights of lessees in the pool during the initial development the reof." 4. Amending Conservation Orders Nos. 83-A and 83-B to delete the following order: "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the rules hereinbefore set forth shall expire nine months from the date of this order except as may be extended by the Committee." 5. Amending Conservation Orders Nos, 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C by adding the following: "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the pool limits and well spacing hereby established may be changed or may be made permanent with or without change upon the application of any owner of lands within the pool, after notice and hea~ing as required by law, and based upon the evidence produced at said hearing." A public hearing on this matter will be held February 26, 1970, at 9:30 a.m. in the Ben Crawford Memorial Building, Third Avenue and Eagle Street, Anchorage, Alaska, at which time affected and interested parties Thomas R. Marshall, Jr. Executive Secretary Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee 3001 Porcupine Drive Anchorage, Alaska 99504 Publish February ~1, 1970 STATE OF ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION OF OIL AND GAS Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Committee 3001 Porcupine Drive AnChorage, Alaska 99504 Re: THE MOTION OF THE OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION COMMITTEE to hear testimony to establish pool rules for the Prudhoe Bay Field. Conservation Order 83-A Prudhoe Bay Kuparuk River Oil Pool Conservation Order 83-B Prudhoe Bay Sadlerochit Oil Pool. Conservation Order 83-C Prudhoe Bay Lisbourne Oil Pool REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION AND FOR AMENDMENT AND MODIFICATION OF CONSERVATION ORDERS 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C Comes now Pan American Petroleum Corporation and respectfully. requests the Oil and Gas Conservation Committee to reconsider Conservation Orders 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C and that said orders be amended as follows: By deleting from Conservation Order 83-B, the following finding: "5. The permeability and pressure communication-in this reservoir is such that a well should drain 640 acres." By deleting from Conservation Order 83-C, the following finding: "6. The permeability and pressure communication in this reservoir is such that a well may 'drain 640 acres." By substituting for each of said findings the following finding: "There is not sufficient evidence from which to determine at this time the area which can economically and efficiently be drained by one well in said pool, but the evidence does establish that an initial well spacing of one well to each 640 acres will result in the most rapid definition of the pool limits and the most. rapid accumulation of the infqrmation upon which an order estab- lishing permanent well spacing could be based, and will promote orderly development of the pool, assist in the prevention of waste, and protect the correlative rights of lessees in the pool during the initial development thereof." and by deleting the following language from Conservation Order 83-A and 83-B: "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the rules hereinbefore set forth shall expire nine months from the date of this order except as may be extended by the Committee" and by adding to Conservation Orders 83-A, 83-B and 83-C, after Rule 8 in each order, the following: "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the pool limits and well spacing hereby established may be changed or may be made permanent with or without change upon the application of any owner of lands within the pool, after notice and hearing as required by law, and based upon the evidence produced at said hearing." In support of its request for reconsideration, Pan American Petroleum Corporation states: 1. It is the owner, as defined by statute of lands within, or immediately adjacent to each of the pools defined in Conservation Orders 83-A, 83-B and 83-C, and its property rights as such owner will be affected by said order. - 2 - 2. There is no evidence in the record to support finding No. 5 of Conservation Order No. 83-B or finding No. 6 of Conservation Order No. 83-C. 3. Said findings do not support Rule 2 of Order No, 83-B and 83-C. Neither finding establishes 640 acres as the area which can reasonably be expected to be efficiently and economically drained by one well, 4~ If the available evidence now held in confidential status were produced, it could not at the present stage of development in either pool establish pool limits, nor could such evidence establish pressure communication between wells or the area which could efficiently and economically be drained by one well. 52 Neither the findings objected to nor any evidence based on information now held in confidential status are necessary in order to support Rule 2 of Conservation Orders No. 83-B or 83-C. 6, There is sufficient evidence in the record to support the finding proposed in this request for reconsideration and amendment, and said finding is sufficient to support Rule 2 of both Conservation Orders 83-B and 83-C, 7. The findings in Conservation Order 83-A are sufficient to support said Order.. 8. If the requested change in findings is made in Conservation Order 83-B and 83-C, Conservation Orders 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C should remain in effect for an indefinite period, since if changes are later found to be necessary the period of time which may elapse before the information necessary to support the change will be accumulated is uncertain, and. will probably be_ different in each pool. ~.L~~ FEB - 3 - 9. At such time as an application is filed requesting-an order changing the pool limits or establishing permanent well spacing based upon comprehensive geological and engineering evidence the Committee, after notice and hearing can then determine whether the pool limits or well spacing or both, as established by each individual Conservation Order should be amended, enlarged, diminished, or made permanent with or without change. 10~ The record contains competent evidence to support those rules and provisions of Orders 83-A, 83-B, and 83-C not concerned with definition of pool limits or with well spacing, and such rules and provisions should remain in effect until there is competent evidence showing a need for a change therein. Wherefore, Pan American Petroleum Corporation respectfully prays that notice of this request for reconsideration and for amendment of Conservation Orders No. 83-A, No. 83-B and No. 83-C be given in accordance with Rule 2009, and that if the Committee, or any interested party protests the adoption of said amendments that a hearing be held thereon at the time and place prescribed in said notice~ Respectfully submitted, ~.a_~h G.' C~ews By. Oscar E. Swan Its Attorneys - 4 -