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Index Other 56
Regulation Package Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment
1. November 14, 2007 Notice of hearing, affidavit of publication, bulk
mailing
2. November 17, 2008 File Opening Request
3. January 13, 2009 Transcript
4. January 23, 2009 Notice of hearing, affidavit of publication, bulk
mailing
5. --------------- Public Comments
6. September 1, 2009 AOGCC re: submission of regulation package to the
AG's office for signature
7. September 22, 2009 Post Notice and Final, Final regulation and Lt.
Governor Order certifying changes to regulations
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Amended Regulations Dealing with Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment
The Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission has revised its regulations dealing
with hydrocarbon measurement equipment requirements in 20 AAC 25.228(b). The
amended hydrocarbon measurement equipment regulation requires the operator to
provide information to and obtain the approval of the Commission prior to the installing
or altering hydrocarbon measurement equipment used for custody transfer purposes and
adopting or changing the methodology used for determining hydrocarbon volumes. The
Lieutenant Governor signed and filed the regulation changes on September 18, 2009,
with an effective date of October 18, 2009.
For further information or to obtain a copy of the amended regulations, contact Jody
Colombie at (907) 793-1221, fax (907) 276-7542, or e-mail jody.colombie cr,alaska.gov.
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Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
From: Shier, Benjamin P (GOV)
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:27 PM
To: Pearson, Robert L (DOA)
Cc: Cramer, John W(GOV); Shier, Benjamin P(GOV); Behr, Deborah E(LAV~; Miller, Linda J(LAW); Weaver,
Steven C(LAV~; Messing, Kevin J(LAV~; Pound, Jim (LAA); Colombie, Jody J(DOA)
Subject: Regulations Filed: 993-09-0052
Attachments: 993-09-0052. pdf
On 9/18/2009, Lieutenant Governor Craig E. Campbell filed regulations (993-09-0052) from the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission
re: Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment and Custody Transfer (20 AAC 25.228(b)).
The effective date of the regulations is 10/18/2009, and the regulations will be published in Register 192, January 2010.
The filing certification and regulation text are attached. Unless requested, no hard copies will be mailed.
Thank you,
BENJAMI:N SHIER.
Special Assistant
Office of Lieutenant Governor Craig E. Campbell
P.O. Box 110015
Juneau, AK 99811
P H O N E: 907.465.3520
FAX: 907.465.5400
benjamin.shier@alaska,gov_
www.ltgov.alaska._gov
9/22/2009
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MEMORANDUM
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State of Alaska
Department of Law
To: Daniel T. Seamount, Jr., Chair ~aTe: September 17, 2009
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation
Commission Fi~e No.: 993-09-0052 > ~ ~ ,
TELEPHONE NO.: 4CS-3E)OO
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FROnn: Steven C. Weaver _,,.~- \~~ sus~ecT: Regulations re: hydrocarbon
Assistant Attorney General measurement equipment and
Legislation/Regulations Section--Juneau custody transfer (2~ AAC
25.228(b))
Under AS 44.62.060, we have reviewed the attached amendment of these regulations by
the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and approve the changes for filing by the
lieutenant governor. I have reviewed this project under a specific delegation dated September
I5, 2009 from the Regulations Attorney. A duplicate original of this memorandum is being
furnished to the lieutenant governor, along with the one page of regulations and the related
documents.
You might wish to contact the lieutenant governor's office to confirm the filing date and
effective date of the attached regulation changes.
The November 14, 2008 public notice, the January 23, 2009 supplemental public notice,
and the September 1, 2009 certification order all state that this action is not expected to require
an increased appropriation. Therefore, a fiscal note under AS 44.62.195 is not required.
In accordance with AS 44.62.125(b)(6), some corrections have been made in the
regulations, as shown on the attached copy.
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cc w/enc: Robert Pearson, Special Assistant & Regulations Contact
Department of Administration
Jody Colombie
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
Thomas Ballantine
Assistant Attomey General
Oil, Gas & Mining Section--Anchorage
Register , r 20 ~~ MISCELLANE~S BOARDS
20 AAC 25.228(b) is amended to read:
(b) Hydrocarbon measurement equipment must be fabricated, installed, and
maintained in conformance with relevant parts of the API Mant.ral of Petroleum
:I~Ieaszsrement Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998. Before installing or
alterin~ hydrocarbon measurement eQUinment used for custody transfer ~urnoses,
the onerator shall submit to the commission information demonstratin~
conformance and obtain commission a~proval of the proposed installation or
alteration and the methodology nroposed for determining hvdrocarbon volumes.
(Eff. 4/2/86, Register 97; am 11/7/99, Register 152; am _/_/ , Register _)
Authority: AS 31.05.030
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MEMORANDUM
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STATE OF ALASKA
ALASKA OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TO: Regulations Attorney DATE: September l, 2009
Legislation/Regulations Section
Department of Law
SUBJECT: AG File No. 993-09-0052
Request for Legal Review
of Regulations Project on
Hydrocarbon Measurement
Equipment
20 AAC 25.228(b)
FROM: Daniel T. Seamount, Jr., Chair ~/;~
R~gulations Contact k~°
Department of Administration
We are requesting approval of the attached final regulations on the following: 1) requiring an
operator to provide information to and obtain the approval of the Alaska Oil and Gas
Commission (Commission) prior to installing or altering hydrocarbon measurement equipment
used for custody transfer purposes; and 2) adopting or changing the methodology used for
determining hydrocarbon volumes. The Commission adopted these changes on July 29, 2009.
Enclosed are the following documents:
1. original and one copy of the final regulations;
2. original signed and dated certification order;
3. original public notices;
4. original additional regulations notice information form distributed with the notice;
5. original publisher's affidavit's of publication;
6. original affidavit of notice;
7. original affidavit of oral hearing;
8. original affidavit of commission action;
9. excerpt from unapproved minutes from the July 29, 2009 meeting;
We worked with Assistant Attorneys General Alan Birnbaum and Thomas Ballantine on
this project.
Upon completing your review, please forward the regulations to the lieutenant governor
for filing. In accordance with AS 44.62.180, the regulation changes will take effect on
the 30`h day after filing.
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ORDER CERTIFYING THE CHANGES TO
REGULATIONS OF ALASKA OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION
COMMISSION
The attached 1 page of regulations, dealing with hydrocarbon metering under 20 AAC 25, is
certified to be a correct copy of the regulation changes that the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation
Commission adopted at its July 29, 2009 meeting, under the authority of AS 31.05.030 and AS
31.05.040 and in compliance with the Administrative Procedure Act (AS 44.62), including the
notice provisions (AS 44.62.190 and AS 44.62.200) and opportunity for public comment
provision (AS 44.62.210).
This action is not expected to require an increased appropriation.
On the record, in considering public comments, the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation
Commission paid special attention to the cost to private persons of the regulatory action being
taken.
As provided in AS 44.62.180, the subject regulation changes take effect on the 30th day after
they are filed by the lieutenant governor.
DATE: September l, 2009 ,,~
Anchora~e_ ~
Daniel T. Seamount, Jr.
Chair
FILING CERTIFICATION
I, Craig E. Campbell, Lieutenant Governor for the State of Alaska, certify that on
2009 at .m., I filed the attached regulations according to the
provisions of AS 44.62.040 - 44.62.120.
Lieutenant Governor
Effective:
Register:
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STATE OF ALASKA )
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THIRD JUDICIAL DISTRICT )
AFFIDAVIT OF NOTICE OF PROPOSED ADOPTION OF REGULATIONS
AND FURNISHING OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
I, Jody J. Colombie, Special Assistant to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,
being sworn, state the following:
As required by AS 44.62.190, notice of the proposed adoption of changes to 20 AAC 25.228,
dealing with hydrocarbon measurements, was given by being
(1) published in a newspaper or trade publication;
(2) furnished to interested persons as shown on the attached list;
(3) furnished to appropriate state officials;
(4) furnished to the Department of Law, along with a copy of the proposed regulations;
(5) electronically transmitted to incumbent State of Alaska legislators;
(6) furnished to the Legislative Affairs Agency, Legislative Library;
(7) posted on the Alaska Online Public Notice System, as required by AS
44.62.175(a)(1) and (b) and AS 44.62.190(a)(1);
(8) furnished electronically, along with a copy of the proposed regulations, to the
Legislative Affairs Agency, the chairs of the Senate Resources Committee and
House Special Committee of Oil and Gas, the Administrative Regulation Review
Committee, and the Legislative Council.
As required by AS 44.62.190(d), additional regulations notice information regarding the
proposed adoption of the regulation changes described above was furnished to interested persons
as shown on the attached list and those in (5) and (6) of the list above. The additional regulations
notice information was posted on the Alaska Online Public Notice System.
DATE: September 1, 2009
Anchora~e
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Jo J. 1 bie
Special Assistant to the Commission
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN TO before me this lst day of Se tember 2009.
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State of Alaska
My commission expires: 11 / 11 /2010
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STATE OF ALASKA )
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THIRD JUDICIAL DISTRICT )
AFFIDAVIT OF ORAL HEARING
I, Jody J. Colombie, Special Assistant to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,
being sworn, state the following:
On January 13, 2009, at 9:00 a.m., at 333 West 7th Avenue, Suite 100, Anchorage, Alaska, a
public hearing presided over by Daniel T. Seamount, Jr., Chair, was held in accordance with
AS 44.62.21 p for the purpose of voting on the adoption of changes to 20 AAC 25.228, dealing
with hydrocarbon measurements.
DATE: Sentember 1. 2009
Anchara~e
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Jod J. C e
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Special Assistant to the Commission
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN TO before me this lst day of September, 2009.
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Nat y Public in and or the
State of Alaska
My commission expires: 11/11/2010
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STATE OF ALASKA )
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THIRD JUDICIAL DISTRICT )
AFFIDAVIT OF COMMISSION ACTION
I, Jody J. Colombie, Special Assistant to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,
being sworn, state the following:
The attached motion, dealing with hydrocarbon measurement regulation changes, was passed by
the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission during its July 29, 2009 meeting.
Date: September 1, 2009
Anchora~e
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Jo } J. C~ o ie
Spe ial Assistant to the Commission
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN TO before me this lst day of Septembe.r 2009.
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Notary Public m an far the
State of Alaska
My commission expires: 11/11/2010
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ALASKA OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION COMMISSION MEETING
July 29, 2009 Unapproved Minutes
Commissioner Daniel T. Seamount, Jr. moved and Commissioner Cathy P. Foerster seconded the
following motion:
"I move to adopt the attached draft amendment to 20 AAC 25.228."
The motion carried unanimously.
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20 AAC 25.228(b) is amended to read:
(b) Hydrocarbon measurement equipment must be fabricated, installed, and
maintained in conformance with relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum
Measurement Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998. Before installin~ or
alterin~ hvdrocarbon measurement equipment used for custody transfer purposes,
the operator shall submit to the commission information demonstratin~
conformance and obtain commission annroval of the proposed installation or
alteration and the methodolo~y pronosed for determinin~ hvdrocarbon volumes.
The submitted information shall include, amon~ other thin~s, sample calculations,
with the underlving measured data, generated using the proposed methodologv. An
annroved methodoloQV mav not be chan~ed without commission approval.
(Eff. 4/2/86, Register 97; am 11/7/99, Register 152; am / / , Register )
Authority: AS 31.05.030
Editor's note: A copy of the relevant parts of the API Manual of Pelroleum Measurement
Standards may be reviewed during business hours at the commission's office and may be
obtained from the American Petroleum Institute, Order Desk, 1220 L Street, N.W., Washington,
D.C.2005-4070.
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20 AAC 25.228(b) is amended to read:
(b) Hydrocarbon measurement equipment must be fabricated, installed, and
maintained in conformance with relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum
Measurement Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998. Before installin~ or
altering hvdrocarbon measurement equipment used for custody transfer purposes,
the operator shall submit to the commission information demonstratin~
conformance and obtain commission annroval of the pronosed_installation or
alteration and the methodologv proposed for determinin~ hvdrocarbon volumes.
The submitted information shall include, amon~ other thin~s, sample calculations,
with the underlvin~ measured data, ~enerated using the pronosed methodolo~y. An
annroved methodolo~v mav not be changed without commission apnroval.
(Eff. 4/2/86, Register 97; am 11/7/99, Register 152; am / / , Register _)
Authority: AS 31.05.030
Editor's note: A copy of the relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum Measurement
Standards may be reviewed during business hours at the commission's office and may be
obtained from the American Petroleum Institute, Order Desk, 1220 L Street, N.W., Washington,
D.C. 2005-4070.
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Maunder, Thomas E (DOA)
From: Maunder, Thomas E (DOA)
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:28 AM
To: Birnbaum, Alan J (LAV1n
Cc: Seamount, Dan T(QOA); Foerster, Catherine P(DOA); Norman, John K(DOA); Colombie,
Jody J (DOA)
Subject: Response to Public Comments_25.228.doc
Attachments: Response to Public Comments_25.228.doc
Alan,
Attached is a document replying to comments regarding the proposed amendment to 20 AAC 25.228.
2 electronic comments were received prior to the hearing, but were not discovered until about a week after the
hea~ing.
It was also discovered that no closing date for comments was included in the original notice so a susequent notice
was made.
2 comments, one topical and one non-topical, were received. The attached document addresses the 3 topical
comments.
An individual reply was only sent to one of the topica! commenters.
Would you please review/edit as appropriate and we can move to finalize this subject.
Thanks,
Tom
6/22/2009
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Response to Public Comments
regarding
Proposed Amendment to 20 AAC 25.228 (b)
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
(AOGCC)
Original Notice November 14, 2008
Public Hearing January 13, 2009
Subsequent Notice January 23, 2009
A public hearing was held on January 13, 2009 to consider a proposed amendment to
Regulation 20 AAC 25.228 (b) regarding hydrocarbon metering. T'he amendment was
proposed by AOGCC and would require an operator to provide information of and obtain
approval from the Commission prior to (1) insta.lling or altering ... equipment used for
custody transfer purposes and (2) adopting or changing the methodology used for
determining hydrocarbon volumes.
Public testimony was presented by the Alaska Oil and Gas Association (AOGA) on
behalf of their member companies. Several items of concern were raised and the
concerns of the testifying party were addressed by the Commission at the hearing.
Following the hearing, additional public comments submitted electronically prior to the
hearing were discovered on January 20. The Iate discovery did not atlow these specific
submissions to be addressed at the public meeting, although after review it is evident that
the points raised were substantially addressed at the public meeting. Subsequently it was
discovered that the Public Notice published November 14, 2008 did not esta.blish a
deadline for written comments to be submitted. A subsequent public notice was
published on January 23, 2009 providing notice that all written comments pertaining to
this issue must be received by the Commission 4:30 pm February 23, 2009.
The purpose of this document is to address, for the record, the public comments not
addressed at the January 13 hearing and received prior to 4:30 pm February 23, 2009.
Commenter 1
On January 12, Ms. Marsha Yon of Emerison Process Management electronically
submitted a comment on behalf to the API Committee on Liquid Measurement. Her
comment related to the specification of the November 30, 1998 version of the API
Manua1 of Petroleum Measurement Standards and whether that specificity precluded
using more recently published standards.
A similar comment was addressed at the hearing. It is the Commission's position that the
variance provision of 20 AAC 25.228 (j) can be employed to a11ow use of more recently
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published standards. If the newest version of the standards were adopted at this time, an
economic penalty could be imposed on operators to up,date or replace their measurement
equipment to comply with the newest standards. Specifically citing the November 30,
1998 edition of the Measurement Standards esta.blishes a minimum requirement for
custody transfer measurement installations.
Comment 2
On January 12, Ms. Sherry Timmerman of ConocoPhillips, Alaska (CPAI) electronically
submitted multiple comments on behalf of Mr. Bobby W. Fletcher, Jr. the Greater
Kuparuk Operations Support Manager. Similar comments were submitted and addressed
at the hearing. CPAI's multiple comments are listed below.
1. CPAI believes the existing regulations are adequa.te and no change is needed.
CPAI is referred to the hearing transcript where the Commission believes ample
evidence was presented supporting the regulatory amendment.
2. CPAI requests clarification of the Commission's intent for the regulatory change
and believes that compliance with the existing reguiations can be confirmed
administratively for new pools and by inspections at existing installations. CPAI
is again referred to the hearing transcript where an example of newly installed
gas measurement equipment with an uncertainty in excess of that for orifice
measurement was presented. The Commission believes that amending the
regulation to require advance notice will a11ow the Commission to be forewarned
when a new custody transfer measurement installation is planned or constructed
and that such involvement will prevent delays due to potential design
shortcomings. With regards to modifications of existing installations, advance
notice will allow the Commission to perform its due diligence regarding oversight
of custody transfer metering installations.
3. CPAI believes that the terms "Alter" and "Insta.ll" need clearer definitions so that
routine maintenance activities are excluded. AOGA also expressed this concern
in their hearing testimony. The Commission stated that it is not intended that
routine maintenance and calibration activities be subject to the amended
requirements. Replacing a malfunctioning piece of equipment like-for-like would
not need prior notification, nor would changing an orifice plate. If an existing
orifice station were changed to ultra-sonic, then notice and approval would be
required. Upgrading (chart to flow computer or new calculation routine) or
replacing (new model or different manufacturer) other portions of the
measurement system would also require prior notice.
4. Following on their 2°d comment, CPAI proposes alternate wording for 20 AAC
25.228 (b) to narrow the scope of the notification requirement to apply to only
new installations and proposes new wording for 2Q AAC 25.228 (i) covering
alterations to custody transfer metering equipment under the 24 hour notice
requirement. As discussed in point 2, above, the Cornmission believes that the
advance notice requirement should properly apply ta both new and existing
custody transfer metering installations.
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Cominent 3
On January 28, Mr. Bruce Webb of Aurora Gas electronically submitted a comment
requesting clarification of "altering" as used in the proposed amendment. Mr. Webb's
concern is similar to that expressed by AOGA at the hearing and CPAI in their 3`a
comment. An electronic response similar to that given in CPAI's 3rd comment, above,
was provided to Mr. Webb on January 28.
Alan: A non-topical comment was received from Ms. Dana Olsen on January 26. A
written reply dated January 2$ from Commissioner Seamount was sent. Does this need
to be addressed?
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Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
From: Maunder, Thomas E (DOA)
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:44 PM
To: Bruce D Webb
Subject: RE: Supplemental Notice AOGCC Hydrocarbon Metering
Bruce,
The regulation change is not intended to affect maintenance activities (replacing pressure transmitters, temp sensors, changing
orifice plates, etc.). Under the new regulation your 2"d set of possible activities (changing from an orifice meter to an ultrasonic
meter or changing the flow computer) would require notice to and approval by the Commission. Cleaning a meter is an action that
could be of interest depending on what substance is fouling the meter since meter fouling could affect the measurement of the
gas. When in doubt, please give me or the on-call Inspector a call or send a message.
I hope this response is of benefit. Call or message with any questions.
Tom Maunder, PE
AOGCC
From: Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:29 AM
To: Maunder, Thomas E (DOA)
Subject: FW: Supplemental Notice AOGCC Hydrocarbon Metering
Importance: High
Tom-please respond to Bruce.
From: aurorapower@gci.net [mailto:aurorapower@gci.net] On Behalf Of Bruce D Webb
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:45 AM
To: Colombie, Jody ] (DOA)
Subject: RE: Supplemental Notice AOGCC Hydrocarbon Metering
Importance: High
Jody,
Aurora Gas, LLC would like additional information on the referenced proposed regulation. Specifically, what is the definition of
"altering" a custody meter?
Our concern is that this needs to be clarified and may be ambiguous as written. For instance, does it include replacing pressure
transmitters, temp sensors, etc., or does "altering" mean changing how we measure the gas flow (i.e. change from an orifice meter
to a ultrasonic meter).
We would not want to get into a situation of non-compliance because we had to repair or clean a custody meter.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.
Best regards,
-Bruce
Bruce D. Webb
Manager, Land and Regulatory Affairs
Aurora Gas, LLC
1400 W. Benson Blvd., Suite 410
Anchorage, AK 99503
1/28/2009
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(907) 277-1003 office
(907) 229-8398 cell
(970)277-1006fax
From: Colombie, Jody J (DOA) [mailto:jody.colombie@alaska.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Supplemental Notice AOGCC Hydrocarbon Metering
Attached is a Supplemental Notice that merely provides a date (February 23, 2009) by which the AOGCC must receive written
comments in regards to the proposed regulation changes to 20 AAC 25.228 (b).
Attached for the convenience of those legislators who have been newly elected, I am attaching the original notice as well as the
proposed regulations along with the supplemental notice.
The recent new meter installations have uncovered a gap in our regulations. There is currently nothing to specify that and how an
operator must receive initial approval for custody transfer metering equipment. Custody transfer metering systems are used to
measure hydrocarbon volumes for revenue and tax determinations. Therefore, initial approval is necessary to prevent an
improperly designed, installed, or calibrated custody transfer metering system from going into service.
Jody J. Colombie
Special Assistant to the Commission
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
333 West 7th Avenue, Suite 100
Anchorage, Alaska 99501
(907) 793-1221 Direct Line
(907) 276-7542 Fax
1/28/2009
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Dana L. Olson
HC-35 Box 5438
Wasilla, AK 99564
Re: Comments Received January 26, 2009
Dear Ms. Olson:
The Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (Commission) has received
your comments, dated January 26, 2009. Upon reviewing them, if the Commission
determines that additional information will be helpful, we will contact you. Thank you
for the comments.
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Alaska Oil and Gas~ssociation
121 W. Fireweed Lane, Suite 207
Anchorage, Alaska 99503-2035
Phone: (907)272-1481 Fax: (907)279-8114
EmaiL crockett@aoga.org
Marilyn Crockett, Executiv~e ~i~ctor
Commissioner Dan Seamount, Chair
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
333 W. 7~' Avenue, Suite 100
Anchorage, Alaska 99501
Dear Commissioner Seamount:
AOGA Comments on Meterin~ Equipment
Reg,ulations [20 AAC 25228(bl]
The 16 members of the Alaska Oil & Gas Association (AOGA) account for the majority of oil and
gas exploration, development, production, transportation, refining and marketing activities in the
state. We appreciate the opportunity to comment on these proposed regulations.
Our member companies are concerned about the potential broad application, interpretation and
implementation of the proposed regulations. Criven that AOGA members are unaware of the
background and reasoning for the proposed changes, we are concerned that if the current draft is
adopted there is the potential for inadvertent noncompliance.
Our questions and concerns are most significant in cases where there will be surface or subsurface
commingling of pools/units prior to the actual custody transfer meter. In that case a
"methodology" is developed to allocate production to the individual pools/units utilizing the _
existing custody transfer equipment as well as other metering and/or welt test equipment.
In these comments, the term "production measurement equipment" refers to Lease Automatic
Custody Transfer (LACT) Units and other oil and gas metering installations in similar service.
The following questions and comments illustrate our concern:
1. What is the definition of "hydrocarbon measurement equipment" as expressed in section 20
AAC 25.228 entitled 'Production measurement equipment for custody transfer"? Will the
hydrocarbon measurement equipment be limited to production metering equipment for
liquid and gas as the fluid leaves the lease, or will the proposed language be interpreted to
include well testing equipment? Well test equipment is not generally considered for
production metering service and then only in commingling operations.
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Members companies do no object to the application of the proposed revisions to
production metering equipment, however, there is concern about the general application to
well test equipment.
2. What does the term "methodology" mean in the conte~ of the proposed revisions? The
term "methodology" may refer to the calculations inherent in the operation of the
production metering equipment or it may refer to the determination of volumes allocated to
commingled pools or units.
If the term "methodology" is applied to production metering eyuipment, member
companies would not object. However there is concern if the term "methodology" makes
reference to well test equipment.
The process for gaining approval is also unclear. Will we need to provide our current
methodology for approval or simply future methodology changes?
3. What level of equipment changes will be considered "altering hydrocarbon measurement
equipment"? That is, what is the definition of altering?
The concern with respect to production metering equipment and well test units is the
potential requirement to apply for approval for even routine maintenance activities. For
example, does it include replacing a gauge on a meter run, and does it include changing
orifice plates?
4. There is no change proposed to the referenced API Manual of Petroleum Measurement
Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998. While a standard reference is needed, we
suggest language be included that allows operators to use the latest revision of the API
standard or methods approved by the AOGCC. For example, the November 30, 1998
standard does not allow the use of ultrasonic meters or coriolos meters for fluid
measurement.
5. Use of the term "provide information" is vague and could lead to confusion as to what
exactly is required. Required information should be specified in the regulations, such as
manufacturer specifications, certifications, or gas flow schematics etc.
6. Timing for approvals - new installations: In cases where a totally new installation is
required, the design of the processing and metering equipment is often far in advance of
the actual installation. However, in the case of surface commingling, existing metering
equipment will most likely be used. The AOGCC approval process for this case is vague
with respect to methodology and timing. Our concem is possible delays for approvals of
the methodology and custody transfer equipment. We suggest a timeline be established for
acquiring AOGCC approvals for new installations.
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7. Timing for approvals - existing installations: Shauld there be a failure of the current
custody transfer equipment, some provision for rapid approval of changes is required to
minimize disruption. What will be required to demonstrate that the changes meet the
requirements of the API Manual of Petroleum Measurement Standards? Will approval of
replacement with a newer model of the same basic equipment be required? Will existing
production metering equipment be grandfathered or be required to be re-approved?
Additionally, we have a suggestion regarding approval for surface commingling between units in
section 20 AAC 25228(a). We suggest adding specific language to 25.228(a) to allow
hydrocarbon production to be measured downstream of an approved commingling point.
Due to conflicting schedules and the recent holiday season, we were unable to facilitate a working
session with AOGCC staff engineers to clarify the intent and application of these proposed
regulations. AOGA believes a future working session would be beneficial to both industry and
the AOGCC.
Please call Harry Engel, Chairman of the AOGA AOGCC Task Crroup at 564-4194 for any
questions or to arrange a work session.
Again, thank you for providing this opportunity to comment. We look forward to working with
the Commission.
Sincerely,
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MARII.YN CROCKETT
Executive Director
Cc: Commissioner Cathy Foerster
Commissioner John Norman
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Suggested edits to AOGCC's
proposed amendment to 20 AAC 25.228.
20 AAC 25.228. Production measurement equipment for custody transfer.
(a) Hydrocarbon production must be measured in accordance with this section before
severance from the property or unit where produced, u #~I- ~~n t~
aoe~rov+~d ~urfac±~ cc~nin~t~ ~lvwon pr~s~rf~rs ~ un~r. Crude oil sample
collection, handling, and analysis in connection with production measurement must be
performed in conformance with relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum
Measurement Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998.
Comment: This exception clarifies that Liberty (and similarly situated units) can sever
production prior to measurement through a LACT meter, provided that the operator has
sought AOGCC approval of surface commingling.
(b) Hydrocarbon measurement equipment must be fabricated, installed, and maintained in
conformance with relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum Measurement
Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998.
Comment: The suggested language allows the operator to install custody transfer
meters that meet APl standards without obtaining AOGCC approval, which altows more
flexibility in maintaining project schedules. The operator must sfill seek AOGCC
approval of custody transfer meters and methodologies prior to commencing production.
The operator should be able to conduct maintenance that does not substantively alter
the approved meter.
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Draft Custody Transfer Meter regulat~comments . Page 1 of 2
Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
From: Maunder, Thomas E (DOA)
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:59 PM
To: Grimaldi, Louis R(DOA); Regg, James B(DOA)
Cc: Foerster, Catherine P(DOA); Colombie, Jody J(DOA)
Subject: FW: Draft Custody Transfer Meter regulation comments
Attachments: Draft Revision 20 AAC 25 228.doc
Lou and Jim,
Harry called this morning to discuss the proposed amendment to 25.228 and would like to meet. I indicated that I will not be
available until in the New Year and asked him to forward any comments/concerns BP had. I wanted to forward his message for
your comments. I just checked with Jody and she has not received any other comments. The hearing will be held as scheduled
since it concerns changing a regulation.
Tom
From: Engel, Harry R [mailto:Harry.Engel@bp.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, Z008 2:43 PM
To: Maunder, Thomas E (DOA)
Cc: Bill, Michael L(Natchiq); Crandall, Krissell; Engel, Harry R; moriarty@aoga.org
Subject: Draft Custody Transfer Meter regulation comments
HiTom-
This is a follow up to our telephone conversation today regarding the above subject.
As we discussed, BP has several questions and potential concerns with the proposed custody transfer
metering regulation changes to 25.228(b). We would like to meet with you prior to the scheduled hearing to
discuss the intent of the regulations and our questions.
Our questions and concerns are most significant in cases where there will be surface commingling of
pools/units prior to the actual custody meter. In that case a"methodology" is developed to allocate
production to the individual pools/units utilizing the existing custody transfer equipment as well as other
metering and/or testing equipment. Our main questions and concerns are listed below.
- Timing for approvals - new installations: In cases where a totally new installation is required, the design of
the processing and metering equipment is often far in advance of the actual installation. However, in the
case of surface commingling, existing metering equipment will most likely be used. The AOGCC approval
process for this case is vague with respect to methodology and timing. Our concern is possible delays for
approvals of the methodology and custody transfer equipment. We suggest a timeline be established for
acquiring AOGCC approvals for new installations.
- Timing for approvals - existing installations: Should there be a failure of the current custody transfer
equipment, some provision for rapid approval of changes is required to minimize disruption. What will be
required to demonstrate that the changes meet the requirements of the API Manual of Petroleum
Measurement Standards? Will approval of replacement with a newer model of the same basic equipment
be required?
12/12/2008
Draft Custody Transfer Meter regulat~comments • Page 2 of 2
.
- Scope of the regulation: The proposed language uses the term "Hydrocarbon measurement equipment"
within the section 25.228 entitled "Production measurement equipment for custody transfer" . Will the new
regulation apply only to the actual custody transfer meter installation (LACT) or to all metering and testing
equipment that may provide data used in the methodology? Will existing equipment be grandfathered or be
required to be re-approved?
- Approval for surface commingling between units. Suggest adding specific language to 25.228(a) for
clarity.
Enclosed is a draft of possible changes to the proposed regulation.
«Draft Revision 20 AAC 25 228.doc»
Thanks for your help. We look forward to meeting with you in early January after you return to the office and
before the scheduled hearing. Please let me know when you will be available during the week of January
5th.
Regards,
Harold R. Engel (Harry)
Engineering Team Leader
Integrity Management, Alaska Drilling & Wells
907-564-4194 office
907-564-5510 fax
12/12/2008
20 AAC 25.228 Proposed Changes in~egulation -- CPAI Comments ~
Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
From: Timmerman, Sherry A [Sherry.A.Timmerman@ConocoPhillips.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:03 PM
To: Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
Subject: 20 AAC 25.228 Proposed Changes in Regulation -- CPAI Comments
Attachments: 090109 20 AAC 25.228 Comments (CPAI to AOGCC).pdf
Ms. Colombie,
Attached find comments to the proposed changes in regulation 20 AAC 25.228.
Piease confirm your receipt of this document by responding to this e-mail.
Thank you.
«090109 20 AAC 25.228 Comments (CPAI to AOGCC).pdf»
Sherry Timmerman
ConocoPhillips Alaska, Inc.
DOT Progrom Coordinator
907-263-3704
Sherry.A. TimmermonC~conocophillips com
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Wayne W. Fietcher, Jr.
~~~~~~~~r~'~~~ Greater Kuparuk Area Operations Suppoet Manager
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Alaska, ICiC. Post Office Box 100360
Anchorage, Alaska 99510-0360
Telephone 907-265-6441
09 January 2009
Ms. Jody Colombie
Special Assistant to the Commission
~laska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
333 W. 7tl' Avenue, Suite 100
Anchorage, AK 99501
Re: Proposed changes to 20 AAC 25.22${b) -- Production measurement equipment
for custody transfer
Dear Ms. Colombie:
ConocoPhillips Alaska, Inc. (CPAT) herein responds to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation
Commission (Commission) request for comments regarding proposed changes to Title 20,
Chapfer 25, of the Alaska Administrative Code (20 AAC 25), published on November 12,
2008.
As an operator of both production and transpartation facilities on the North Slope of Ala~ka,
CPAI seeks tn maintain custody transfer measurements witl~in the applicable standards,
which benefits not only the State of Alaska, but the asset owners and partners, and various
other stakeholders. To that end, CPAI offers the comments and recominendations contained
herein for the Commission's cansideration.
No Change
20 Af1C 2~.228 (a) through (h) establishes the hydrocarbon measurement m~thods and
equiprnent standards required by the Commission, (i) identifies opportunities for the
Cornmission to evaluate conformance with these approvsd standards, and {j) provides a
method for the Gammission to approve exceptions to the required standards when justified.
The proposed regulatory chan~e as written appears to establish a new protocol requii•ing
Commission approval of all hydrocarbon measurement methods and equipment prior to
installation or alteration. Change from exception-based approval to all-inclusive pre-approval
may cause a significant and undue burden for all involved parties.
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Proposed changes to 20 AAC 25.228(b)
Production measurement equrpment for custody ti•ansfer
09 January 2009
Clarify Intent
It is unclear why the Commission is proposing the change in the re~ulation. If there is a need
to confirm that the methods and equipment planned for new fields meets the API Manual ~f
Petroleum Measu~-ement Standard.s (MPMS); the proposed regulation charige should clearly
state this intention. Conforrnance can be verified administratively when an operator seeks
perrnission to produce the pool. ~
If the intent is to manage change in the existing fields, no change to the existing regulation is
necessary. 20 AAC 25.228(b} already requires confirmation with API MPI~IS and 20 AAC
25.228(i) allows conformance to be confirmed by the Commission when witnessing the
various operations defined.
Define "Alter" and "InstalP'
The terms "alter" and "install" are very broad, allow for misinterpretation, and could be
restrictive. Although CPAI believes the intent of the proposed regulation is to require
Commission approval of substantial changes to measurement methods and equipment {e.g., a
new type of flow meter), definitions would provide needed clarity, nai~row the scope of the
proposed regulation, and limit rnisinterpretation by all parties. As written, the proposed
regulation could be construed to include a variety of routine rnaintenance that should not
require agency approval (e.g., replacernent in kind (equal or better) of failed components,
device firmware upgrades unrelated to calculations, removing one meter from a bank of
meters from service, calibration checks).
Proposed Regulation Modi~cations
To clarify and narrow the proposed regulation, CPAI recomnlends the Commission, at a
minimum, make the following madifications to the proposed regulation:
20 AAC 25.228 (b)
... Before installing e~l~i~g a new hydrocarbon measurement e~tri~~~
system or alterin~ the volume determinatian methodolo~y used for
custody transfer• purposes, the operator sl~all submit to the cammission
information demonstrating conformance and obtain commission approval of
t11e proposed installatidn r~- ^'~°-~°+~^-~ and the methodology proposed for
determining hydrocarbon volumes.
In addition, the following revision could effectively satisfy t~1e notification protocol for
minor alterations without creating a new approval process.
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Pro~osed changes to 20 AAC 25.228(b)
Production measurement equi;pment for custody transfet•
09 Januaiy 2009
20 AAC 25.228 (i)
The commission will, in its discretion, require at least 24 hours notice before
the following operations so that a representative of the commission can
witness the operation:
(5) alterations to custody transfer meterin~ equipment
CPAI appreciates the opportunity to submit its comments regardrng this proposed re~ula~ion
change. If you have any questions, please contact Gary Targac at 265-6586 or 659-7226 or
by e-mail at Gary.Targac@conocophillips.com.
Sincerely,
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Bobb W. Fletcher, Jr.
Greater KuparukArea Operations Support Manager-
bc:
Alpine Automation E»gineer
Alpine Operations and Maintenance Superintendecrt
CPF3 Oooguruk Coordinator
NSK Automation Engineer
NSK Flow Measurement Specialist
Johjl Braden, Staff Engineer
S~ephen Bradtey, GKA Operations Manager
Harry Cellas, Staff E&I Engineer
Maleolm Huson, NSOD Pipeliue Operations Supervisor
Kenneth Martin, I'roduction Er~gineering Regional Adviso~-
Gary Sykes, Exploration Evaluatian and Operations Nlanager
Gary 1~argac, Froduction Engineering Supervisor
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Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
From: Marsha.Yon@emerson.com
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:36 AM
To: Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
Cc: Steve.Resnick@emerson.com
Subject: Proposed Amendment to 20 AAC 25.228 (b)
As a supplier of equipment for hydrocarbon measurement and a member of the API Committee on Liquid Measurement, I'd like to
submit the following for your review:
The AOGCC proposed amendment statement "Hydrocarbon measurement equipment must be fabricated,
installed, and maintained in conformance with relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum
Measurement Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998" appears to preclude the use of the more recently
published API standards.
If the intent is to utilize the most current API standard for new metering installations or changes in flow metering equipment at an
existing insta(lafion, the amendment might more clearly state "Hydrocarbon measurement equipment must be fabricated,
installed and maintained in conformance with the version of the relevant parts of the AP/ Manual of Petroleum
Measurement Standards that is current at the time of the proposed installation or alteration of the equipment "
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the proposed amendment.
AAarsha Yo~ (~c~sir~ess Develop~nent Mgr. ~ Micro Motion, Inc.
EFnerson Process Management ~ 126~3 Southwest Fnvy, Suite 440 ~
;t~~ffor;~ I TX ~ 774l7
T+1 281 207 286~ j F±1 281 207 2815 ~ M-~1 281 468 1324
Marsha Yon(i)k?mcrson.com. ~
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SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE OF PROPOSED CHANGES IN THE REGULATIONS OF THE
ALASKA OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION COMMISSION
The Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (Commission) proposes to adopt changes to Title 20,
Chapter 25, of the Alaska Administrative Code. The Commission proposes to amend 20 AAC 25.228(b)
to require an operator to provide information to and obtain the approval of the Commission prior to the
following: (1) installing or altering hydrocarbon measurement equipment used for custody transfer
purposes; and (2) adopting ar changing the methodology used for determining hydrocarbon volumes.
For a copy of the proposed regulation changes, contact Jody Colombie, Special Assistant to the
Commission, at 907-793-1121 or jody.colombie@alaska.gov, or visit www.ao~cc.alaska.gov.
The purpose of this supplemental notice it to provide notice of the deadline (which was inadvertently
omitted from the notice dated November 12, 2008) for the Commission's receipt of written comments on
the proposed regulation changes, including the potential costs to private persons of complying with them.
All written comments must be received by the Commission by 4:30 p.m. on February 23, 2009. They
must be addressed to Ms. Colombie at jody.colombie cr alaska.~;ov or at the Commission (333 W. 7t~' Ave.,
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YOU SHOULD COMMENT DURING THE TIME ALLOWED IF YOUR INTERESTS COULD BE
AFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED REGULATION CHANGES. After the public comment period, the
Commission will, without further notice, adopt the proposed changes or other regulation changes dealing
with the same subject ar take no action. Accordingly, the language of any fulal regulations may be
different from the proposed changes. (Written and aral comments are public.)
Statutory Authority: AS 31.05.030.
Statutes Being Implemented, Interpreted, or Made SpeciTic: AS 31.05.030.
Fiscal Information: The proposed regulation changes are not expected to require an increased
appropriation.
DATE: January 23, 2009
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CI•TANGES IN THE REGULA'F€pNS OF THE
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COMMISSION
The Alaska Oii and Gas Conservation Cornmission ''
iGOmmissian) proposes to adopt changes to 7i~te 20,
Chapter 25, oP the a{aska AdminfstratAVe Cs~de; TF~
Commission Proposes to arnencf 2U ~,~ 25.228tb} to
require arr operator to r0uide i~tformation to and
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obtain the approva! o€ ~ CtSrrtmission prior ia tfie
following: {~) insta~l~g czr aFtering hydracarb~at~ '
measurement equfpme~t usetl fo~ Cbstocfy transfer
purposes; and f2) aeFppttng or changi~t~ the '
metnodotogy usecf for deFertmining pydfocarbam :
volumes:
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the pubkic comment period, the Commission wi61,
withq~~ further notice, adopt the proposed changes
or other reg~tation changes dealingwith t~e sam~
SubjEet tx talee no &Ctiext. Aee€~rdir~ty, tEi6 ang
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From: Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Supplemental Notice AOGCC Hydrocarbon Metering
Attachments: Supplemental Notice.pdf; Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment Regulation.pdf
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Lamont Frazer; Marc Kuck; Mary Aschoff; Maurizio Grandi; P Bates; Richard Garrard; Sandra Lemke; Scott Nash;
Steve Virant; Tom Gennings; Willem Vollenbrock; William Van Dyke; Woolf, Wendy C(DNR); Aleutians East
Borough; Anna Raff; Barbara F Fullmer; bbritch; Bill Walker; Brad McKim; Brandon Gagnon; Brian Gillespie; Brit
Lively; Bruce Webb; buonoje; Cammy Taylor; Cande.Brandow; carol smyth; Cary Carrigan; Charles O'Donnell; Chris
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Brueggeman; Scott Cranswick; Shannon Donnelly; Sharmaine Copeland; Sondra Stewman; Sonja Frankllin; Stan
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Attachments:Supplemental Notice.pdf;Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment Regulation.pdf;
Attached is a Supplemental Notice that merely provides a date (February 23, 2009) by which the AOGCC must receive written
comments in regards to the proposed regulation changes to 20 AAC 25.228 (b).
Attached for the convenience of those legislators who have been newiy elected, I am attaching the original notice as well as the
proposed regulations along with the supplemental notice.
The recent new meter installations have uncovered a gap in our regulations. There is currently nothing to specify that and how an
operator must receive initial approval for custody transfer metering equipment. Custody transfer metering systems are used to
measure hydrocarbon volumes for revenue and tax determinations. Therefore, initial approval is necessary to prevent an
improperly designed, installed, or calibrated custody transfer metering system from going into service.
Jody J. Colombie
Special Assistant to the Commission
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
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Cathy Foerster
3 John K. Norman
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Opening remarks by Chair Seamount
Testimony by Tom Maunder
Testimony by Marilyn Crockett
Testimony by Harry Engel
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CHAIR SEAMOUNT: On the record. Today is Tuesday, January
13th, 2009; is it 9:03 a.m. We're located at 333 ~r~est Seventh
Avenue, Suite 100, Anchorage, Alaska. Those are the offices of
the Alaska Oil & Gas Conservation Commission. To my left is
Commissioner Cathy Foerster, to my right is Commissioner John
Norman. And I am Dan Seamount, the Chair.
If anyone has any special needs; please let Tracie
Paladwczuk -- did I do that right?
MS. PALADWCZUK: You did.
(Off record comments)
CHAIR SEAMOUNT; Please see Tracie and she'll make sure
that she tries to meet your needs.
R& R Court Reporting will be recording the proceedings.
You can get a copy from R& R Court Reporters when -- when they
are -- when they're ready.
The purpose of this hearing is to consider proposed
amendments to the Production Measuring Equipment for Custody
Transfer regulations of the Alaska Oil & Gas Conservation
Commission. The proposed regulation changes requires operators
to provide information to and obtain the approval of the
Commission prior to one, ~nstalling or altering hydrocarbon
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measurement equipment used for custody transfer purposes and
two, adopting or changing the methodology used for determining
hydrocarbon volumes.
Notice of this hearirg was published in the Anchorage
Daily News on November 14th, 2008. It's also been posted on
the State of Alaska online notices website as well as AOGCC's
own website.
This hearing will be hel~ in accordance with 20 A.AC 25.540
of the Alaska Administrative Code. The hearing will be
recorded. Is the sign up shee~ around here somewhere?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Somebody just came in who hasn't
signed in.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: I want to remind anybody that has an
intention to testify this morning that you speak in both the
microphones, there's two microphones in front of you, one is
for amplification within this room -- can ever~body hear me
okay, it's working? Okay. And ~he other is for the purposes
of facilitating the court reporter's work.
The practice is to swear witness~s and we will follow the
practice. Also if you do intend to be testifying as an expert
wi~ness, that is someone with experience and background on the
subject matter on the regulations, then I will ask you to
indicate your background and your experience so the Commission
can gauge whether you fall into the cateaory of an expert
witness. And where is the sign up sheet?
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CHAIR SEAMOUNT: We have one, two, three testifiers, One,
Tom Maunder, Senior Petroleum Engineer with the AOGCC, I guess
he'll testify first to introduce people to the amendments. And
then we've got Marilyn Crockett of AOGA who wishes to testify.
I assume you want to go next, is that true, Marilyn, you want
to go before Harry Engel of BP? Will that be the order? Okay.
A11 right, Good deal. If there's anybody -- is there else in
the room that wishes to testify? Hearing none, we'~l check one
more time after the three for sure testifiers testify.
Okay. We'll start with Mr. Tom Maunder, AOGCC. Are you
going to be giving sworn testimony?
MR. MAUNDER: Yes, sir, I will be.
CHATR SEAMOUNT: Raise your right hand.
(Oath administered)
MR. MAUNDER: I do.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT; Please state your name?
MR. MAUNDER: Thomas E. Maunder, M-a-u-n-d-e-r.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: VJho do you represent?
MR. MAUNDER: I represent the stafi ot the Alaska Oil &
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working for the Commission.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Do you wish to be considered an expert
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4 CHAIR SEAMOUNT: .....or what is the discipline that you
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6 MR. MAUNDER: Petroleum Engineering.
7 CHAIR SEAMOUNT: And, I guess, just give us your
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9 MR. MAUNDER: Thank you Commissioner Seamount.
10 COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: What subset of petroleum
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As an Engineer on the Commission and then Senior Petroleum
Engineer on the Commission is has been my -- part of my
responsibility has been to work with the inspectors as they
examine and audit the proving and calibration of the various
metering facilities throughout the state of Alaska. We are
fortunate to have a very experienced cadre of inspectors that
keep close tabs on the equipment that is used for measuring
hydrocarbons as they are produced throughout the state both in
Cook Inlet and on the North Slope.
My experience with the custody transfer measurement in
particular has been involved with familiarity with the API
petroleum standards and the ability early on in my career when
I was involved with the measurement in the North Sea to take
the proving equations and program them into hand held
calculators to facilitate the work on the inspectors that were
employed at t.hat time. I°m not sure what else you would wish
me to add.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: That's enough for me.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Commissioner Foerster, I guess yau've
already -- do you have any other comments or questions?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: I'm good.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Commissioner Norman, do you have any
comments or questions?
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: I have no questions.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Let's see, how do we do this, it's been a
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3 CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Okay. We wi11 accept Mr. Maunder as an
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7 COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Works for me.
8 CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Okay. Before we proceed with Mr.
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Commission's authority regarding the measurement of oil and gas
may be found at AS 31.05.030(d)(6) where it is stated, the
Commission may require the gauging or other measuring of oil
and gas to determine the quality and quantity of oil and gas.
20 A.AC 25.228 and 25.230 are the present regulations that
implement the authority granted in statute for measurement.
25.228 first appears in the regulations effective April
2nd, 1986 and as written then specifically pertain to the
equipment employed to physically measure and mathematically
calculate the quantities of oil and gas.
25.230 immediately following contained further
requirements pertaining to individual well measurement and
allocation as well as a measurement prior to severance from the
property or unit where produced. 25.230 in an earlier form was
present in the Commission regulations effective July, 1980.
Measurement prior to severance from the property or unit
is known as custody transfer. It is also known as LACT or
lease automated custody transfer. In 1998 25.228 and 25.230
were amended and reorganized. 25.228 in its amended form
addresses measurement equipment and procedures for custody
transfer measurement. 25.230 as currently written addresses
only allocation measurement and production reporting.
The intent of the amendment being considered today is to
require the operator of the unit or property to involve the
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or existing equipment is altered. By adopting this amendment
~he onus is on the operator to apprise the Commission of their
plans in advance of the equipment being fabricated and
installed or altered.
The adoption of this amendment will allow the Commission
to conduct our due diligence regarding custody transfer
measurement and help avoid situations that have been
encountered in the last several years: These include the
fabrication and installation of.equipmerit to measure gas
leaving Alpine for Nuiqsut.
When the Commission was ultimately presented with the
information on the meters it was determined that the
uncertainty of the meters chosen exceeded that of standard
orifice meters and the chosen meters ultimately needed to be
replaced. Another situation was encountered where the
functional meter elements, inciuding the electronic signaling
equipment, were changed and the Commission first became aware
of the changes when one of the inspectors was routinely
inspecting the measurement location.
Ir~ the first case the uncertainties of the chosen meters
clearly exceeded the uncertainty of orifice meters which is
essentially the`maximum uncertainty presently accepted.
Contact up front with the Commission would have eliminated the
need to replace the meters. In the second case wh~le the new
equipment did meet the requirements of the petroleum
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measurement standards which satisfied the present effective
regulation, I don't believe it's acceptable that changes in
custody transfer measurement equipment are discovered through
routine inspection.
I do not believe that this amendment places a large burden
on the operators. The State is nat the only party interested
in quality measurement being performed. There are other
parties to the commercial transaction with financial interest
in excess of the State's.
The present regulation requires that equipment used for
custody transfers be fabricated, installed and maintained in
accord with petroleum management standards and that the
ultimate measurement of hydrocarbon also be in accord with the
standards. This proposed arnendment does not change that.
The additional requirements being placed in the regulation
are to provide the Commission advance notice, copies of the
relevant document regarding the equipment and calculations and
the opportunity to review and concur with the plans.
This concludes my testimony.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Thank you, Mr. Maunder. Commissioner
Foerster, do you have any comments or questions?
COMMISSIONER FCERSTER: I do. i have or~e. Mr.
Maunder.....
MR. MAUNDER: Yes, Commissioner?
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: .....somewhere in the back of my
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discovered that there was a custody transfer meter that we
weren't aware of or that -- is that true?
MR. MAUNDER: Yes, ma'am, that is true. There was a gas
measurement station on the Inlet -- on the Kenai peninsula that
had been placed in service and again it was discovered when one
of the inspectors was down doing routine inspections.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. So that's another example
of the impetus.....
MR. MAUNDER: Yes, ma'am. There are a total, I believe,
of about five events in the last four or five years.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. Thank you. So I have
another question. When you talk about individual well
measurement, does that apply to every measurement technique
employed everywhere or is it just for custody transfer
measurements?
MR. MAUI~TDER: This amendment pertains specifically to
custody transfer measurement.
COMMISSIGNER FOERSTER: Okay.
MR. MAUNDER: We are not -- we are not extending it into
the equipment that's used for well testing.....
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay,
MR. MAUNDER: .....that is not maintained to the standard,
the exactness of the equipment used to measure the production
being taken from a lease.
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questions.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Commissioner Norman, do you have any
questions?
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Just one question, Mr. Maunder. You
mentioned the additional burden on private persons, operators
or others. Could you elaborate a little bit on how if this
change is adopted it might place either an additional financial
or administrative or other burden on industry or anyone else?
MR. MAUNDER: There may be a slight increase in
administrative burden in having to do the -- provide the
additional copies and interface with members of the Commission
staff regarding the proposed metering installation or the -- or
the change to an existing station. My experience at least from
what I've seen so far is that the documents are al1 prepared --
the documents that we would want copies of are prepared in the
course of the station design and the approvals within the
parties -- the operators and the partners in a lease or the
property.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Thank you. Nothing further.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Mr.
Maunder, if you could stick around until the end of the hearing
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MR. MAUNDER: Certainly.
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have our next testifier or testifiers, please, approach -- I
guess approach the bench or sit at the table. Sit at the
table. Are you both going to be wanting to give sworn
testimony?
MR. ENGEL: Yes.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Okay. Please raise your right hands.
(Oath administered)
MS. CROCKETT: Yes.
MR. ENGEL: Yes.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Thank you. Who will be testifying first?
MS. CROCKETT: Mr. Chairman, my name's Marilyn Crockett,
I'm the Executive Director of the Alaska Oil & Gas Association.
I'm joined today by Mr. Harry Engel with BP. Mr. Engel is the
Chair of the AOGCC Task Group that operates within the
Association. I'm here to introduce Mr. Engel. I will turn
over the actual technical testimony to him after a short
introduction on my part.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: And so I assume you don't want to be
qualified as an expert witness, is that true?
MS. CROCKETT: That's correct, I do not.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Okay. Then please proceed.
MS. CROCKETT: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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MS. CROCKETT: Again my name is Marilyn Crockett, I'm the
Executive Director of the Alaska OiI & Gas Association or AOGA
as we're otherwise known. AOGA is a trade association which
represents the majority of oil and gas exploration, production,
transportation, refining and marketing activities in Alaska and
our membership comprises companies that operat2 not only -- and
produce not only on the North Slope, but also in Cook Inlet.
Our Tasx Group is represented by members of the AOGA
membership who have expertise and experience in this particular
regard. And as I mentioned earlier, Mr. Engel is the Chair of
our Task Group and he will be presenting the detailed comments
before you today. We've handed out copies of the three page
letter that we prepared in advance of this hearing.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Thank you.
MS. CROCKETT: And I will turn it over to Mr. Engel.
MR. ENGEL: Good morning.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: And, Mr. Engel, are you -- I assume you
want to be qualified as an expert witness.....
MR. ENGEL: Yes.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: .....is that true? Okay. What is the
subj ect?
MR. ENGEL: Petroleum engineering.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: And specifically?
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CHAIR SEAMOUNT: And could you, please, give us your
quaiifications?
MR. ENGEL: Yes, Mr. Chazrman. Good morning. My name is
Harry Engel and I'm currently an engineering team leader within
BP's drilling and wells organization. T have 28 years of
experience in the oil and gas industry, focusing on drilling
engineering, field, well side leadership roles, operational
auditing and some HSE management positions as well. I've
worked in the North American Rocky Mountains and most of the
operating areas in Alaska with several international
assignments.
My expertise is focused on drilling engineering with the
emphasis on field operations. I have broad knowledge of
production measurement equipment technology and the relevant
API standards. Considering this is a specialized topic, I have
consulted with our engineering staff within BP to understand
more of the day to day operations. And i feel I'm qualified
this morning to present our comments to the proposed
regulations.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Thank you, Mr. Engel. Commissioner
Foerster, comments, questions?
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CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Commissioner Norman?
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: The only question I have, I believe
that Ms. Crockett clarified it, but you are speaking of the
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MR. ENGEL: Yes, Commissioner Norman, I am. This morning
I'm representing the AOGA companies as Chairman of the AOGCC
Task Group,
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Thank you.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Do I hear any opposition to qualifying
Mr. Engel as an expert witness?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: None from me.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: No objection.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Hearing none, Mr. Engel is considered an
expert witness for this hearing.
MR. ENGEL: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
HARRY ENGEL
previously sworn, called as a witneas on behalf of AOGA,
testified as follows on:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
MR. ENGEL: As Marilyn mentioned, we did provide a letter
this morning that summarizes our comments, mainly a series of
comments and questions regarding the proposed regulations. And
we believe that the broad nature of the regulations could
present some problems to member companies with regard to the
application of the regulation to certain equipment used for
petroleum measurement activities in the field. And we believe
that due to our -- unclear nature of the regulation, there may
be some inadvertent non-compliance that could result from
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operators not quite understanding the ~otai application of the
regulation.
So what I'l1 do this morning is go through the letter and
-- I'm not going to read it verbatim, but I thought I would
summarize our questions and concerns. And if the Commission
feels we can deal with the questions now that would be fine or
we can just present the questions and then end up with a
request that we meet with staff at a later date to better
understand the intent and application of the regulations. Is
that an okay approach with the Commission?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER; Yes.
MR. ENGEL: Okay. Great. So what I'll start with is our
questions are significant in cases where we have a surface
and/or subsurface commingling of pools or units that take place
at -- before actual custody transfer operations. In those
cases a methodology is developed that actually allocates
production to individual pools or units. And we just want to
make sure that we understand how this is going to work with the
commingling -- a commingling situation.
So the first question we have is around a definition and
the definition that we need clarity around is hydrocarbon
measurement equipment that's expressed in the current
regulation. And the concern there is are we referring LACT
meters like Mr. Maunder mentioned earlier or are we talking
about well testing equipment. So there -- there's quite a
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difference there between tne application of Li~at to either a
well testing operation or a lease automated custody transfer
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COMMISSIONER Iv~ORMAN: Mr. Engel -- if I can ask a
question, Mr. Chairman, on that?
CHATR SEAMOUNT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Subsection (a) talks about -- sets
up the requirement, the conditions for (b) by talking about
hydrocarbon production must be measured before severance from
the property or unit which would exclude testing on the
property unless there is a severance. Your corcern here on
item one, I just want to be sure we understand it before we go
on by it, is that the change could also pull in testing
equipment as well as the traditional LACT meters?
MR. ENGEL: Yes.
~OMMISSIONER NORMAN: Okay.
MR. ENGEL: Yes, sir.
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MR. ENGEL: Okay. The second question we have is related
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the calculations inherent to the operations of inetering
equipment or it may refer to the termination of volumes (
allocated to commingled pools or units. So just getting
clarity around how that term would apply would be helpful to I
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The next question is related to altering equipment. To
what extent would an altering activity require approval from
the AOGCC. So I think that would be beneficial for us to
understand to what extent we would have to apply for an
application for taking -- just doing, for example, say
preventive maintenance activities on a unit.
The next point is related to the reference to the API
standard in the regulation. And we would recommend that
language be included in the proposed regulations that would
allow us to use the most current version of the API standard.
The next topic is around the expression that's currently
in the draft, providing information. We think that's a vague
expression and we think that having specific requirements would
help an operator fulfill the requirements of the Commission ard
help them approve an"application for metering equipment.
And the last point or the next point is related to timing
for approvals for both new installations and for existing
regulation -- existing installations. And we believe a
timeline would help an operator to plan and to submit an
application to the AOGCC for consideration.
There is one point we want to address and that is -- it's
not included actually in the draft of the regulation, but it's
in section (a) of 25.228. And we're suggesting -- we have a
suggestion regarding approval of equipment that would be used
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For example, if an operator proposes to bring two units
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would be beneficial to an operator. And I think.....
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Do -- can I ask a question? Can
you give me any examples of where you have lease -- you know,
custody transfer measurement upstream of the commingling?
MR. ENGEL: Well, Commissioner Foerster, there may be a
case that may be coming up in the near future in some areas
where an operator may bring some production into an existing
unit and it may be measured before it actually leaves the
lease. So it would be a different approach to measuring than
we currently have in place today. So I'm talking vaguely, but
it's an area that may come up with future development on the
North Slope.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: You -- I'rn assuming that you'l1 be
able to talk to us vaguely when you meet with staff?
MR. ENGEL: Well, we'll -- I'll bring a hypothetical
situation where new units coming in rnay have that
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COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: OKay.
MR. ENGEL: .....to deal with. Then -- and some may -- I
think the operators would support the regulations as proposed
with some clarity around the points I've addressed this
morning. And I'm recommending that we do arrange a session
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the -- of the regulations so we can comply with them.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: So your proposal is number 1 on our-
decisions, meet with staff later instead of address your
concerns now? Okay. Thank you.
MR. ENGEL: Yes.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT; Commissioner Foerster, do you have any
questions or comments?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: I was rude and interrupted every
time I had them.
(Off record comments)
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Do you have any polite questions or
comments, Commissioner Norman?
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: I will try to be polite. I have one
-- just one question and then one comment. Mr. Engel, I
understand that there is a concern about the breadth of this,
I'l1 express it that way, that it may pick up pieces of
equipment not intended.
MR. ENGEL: Right.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: And I'm looking at the change right
here. Before installing or altering hydrocarbon measurement
equipment used for custody transfer purposes. So that to me
would seem to exclude measurement equipment not used for
custody transfer purposes, Does that address some of your
concerns or do you think that that's still -- that that still
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5 COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Okay. And then, Mr. Chairman, just
5~ a comment. I think it would be efficient perhaps rather than
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9 sure to come back on the record and spread on the public record
10 whatever evolves from those discussions and afford the public
11 also a chance to participate.
12 CHAIR SEAMOUNT: For sure.
13I COMMISSIONER NORMANc I have nothing more.
14 CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Okay. Other -- I guess I'll provide some
15 opportunity right now for questions from any other persons in
16i the audience. Are there -- is there anyone else that would
17~ like to testify. Hearing none, I think maybe tnre should take a
18 l0 minute recess to make sure. Is that.....
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20 CHAIR SEAMOUNT: .....that's appropriate? Okay. Let's
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CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Let's go on the record. Okay. Mr.
Engel, you presented us with two options, one to take care of
~ this matter today and the other to hold a meeting with staff
later on which would require a 30 day notice once you guys got
things taken care of. The Commission believes that we can
address your concerns today. And so we're going to go ahead
and do that, try to do that -- attempt to do that in this
meeting. And our petroleum engineer Commissioner who has a lot
more expertise than I do will take over the managing of this
hearing at this time.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. Let's take your issues one
by one and.....
MR. ENGEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....we'll have a discussion among
the Commissioners and.....
MR. ENGEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....you and Mr. Maunder.
MR. ENGEL: Okay. Commissioners, may -- a point of
clarification, please. So we're going to move into a working
session right now?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: No, we're still in the hearing.
MR. ENGEL: Okay. Okay. So will we be resolving our
questions today?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: We're going to be done today.
Okay. The first question -- issue that you raised. We felt
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3 you read the part about custody transfer then it's not for well
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9 viR. ENGEL: Okay.
10 MR. MAUNDER: That is correct, Commissioner Foerster.
11 COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. ~our second concern relates
12 to using the term methodology and whether that's vague -- too
13 vague or not. And, Mr. Maunder, would you care to comment on
14 your plan to address that concern?
15 MR. MAUNDER: Looking at the covenant that AOGA has
16 subrnitted, it is looking at the calculations inherent in the
17 opera~ion of the metering and not the allocation which as they
18 say in their second paragraph, if the term methodology is
19 applied to production metering equipment they do not object.
20 And that is the intent, is the production metering.
21 COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. Now your third concern
22 deals with level of equipment changes considering altering and
23 you talk about routine maintenance. If in the caurse of
24 routine maintenance you installed the -- a replacement version
25 of the exact same thing that's not altering, but if you take a
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the same characteristics that's altering.
MR. ENGEL: So replace.....
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Does that make sense?
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COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Just doing routine maintenance is
nct altering, but in the course of routine maintenance if vou
replace a certain product with a different product that has
different characteristics that's altering.
MR. ENGEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Does that make sense?
MR. ENGEL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. Number 4.....
MS. CROCKETT: Commissioner Foerster.....
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Yes?
MS. CROCKETT: ..... excuse me, may I interrupt for just a
moment?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Sure.
MS. CROCKETT: Then help me understand then that -- what
you said makes sense, help me understand then what the quick
approval process would be in a situation where you've done some
maintenance, you've had to replace a piece of equipment and now
you've got a newer piece of equipment so it's diiferent. What
sort of transition or approval process would the Commission
undertake to make sure that that's -- that a piece of equipment
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3 COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Well, ideally the operator would
4 know what equipment he has in his tool kit when he shows up to
5 fix something and he could get advanced approval simply by a
6 phone call to one of the inspectors that's always on the Slope
7 or aiways available in the Inlet. So I'm assuming that the
8 operator knows wi~at he takes out to do work before he gets
9 there, he could make a phone call and get it approved before he
10 did it.
11 MR. ENGEL: Okay. Great. And on the same case,
12 Commissioner, there may be a case where a failure may happen,
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14 appropriate piece. So again, dialogue would be important to
15 understand the approval process for that situation.
15 COMMISSTONER FOERSTER: And we can -- we do always have
17 inspectors, at least one, usually two on the North Slope, ar~d
18i one is always available on call in the Inlet. So if you know
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20 approval should not be an issue.
21 MR. ENGEL: Thank you.
22 COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: -0kay. Number 4, I think Mr.
23 Maunder had some concerns that he wanted to share with going to
24 the latest API standard.
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1~ Foerster. At this time we are not in favor of bianketly
2i ad~opting the newest versions of the Petroleum Measurement
3 Standards. We are not opposed to operators using them for the
4 design and -- of their metering stations. Such a intent or
5 approval can be secured through subjection (j) of the present
6 regulations where it's stated upon request the Commission will
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9 accuracy in measuring hydrocarbons severed from the property or
10 unit. The Commission staff and the inspectors have a concern
11 that if we blanketly adopted the most recent version of the
12 Petroleum Measurement Standards that that would likely impose
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14 would require them to adopt those standards and potentially
15 alter their equipment and the methodologies with -- you know,
16 carte blanche and not in a more organized fashion.
17I COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Does that make sense to you guys?
18~ MR. ENGEL: It does.
19~ COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay.
20 MR. ENGEL: What I understand -- what I heard, Tom, was
21 that an operator may submit an application for a technology --
22 for a metering application.....
23 MR. MAUNDER: That is correct.
24 MR. ENGEL: .....to be considered by the Commission.
25 MR. MAUNDER: Yeah, that is how we've handled approval
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MR. ENGEL: Okay.
MR. MAUNDER: .....ultrasonic gas meters in Cook Inlet.
MR. ENGEL: Okay. Very good. That's acceptable.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Mr. Chairman.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT; Go ahead.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: And if it is a consensus that a more
recent version -- we're working right now with the November 30,
1998, that that should be done, then the Commisslon would be
receptive to that. I think the thought is that the Corrtmission
needs time to get comfortable with that and also to get the
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amend it to incorporate the absolute most recent version.
MR. ENGEL: Thank you, Commission.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: On number 5, we felt like that in
the verbiage that we included that it's specific enough,
information should include, but not be limit~d to. And an
operator should be familiar enough with what we do and what
your other applications have been and what information is
normally required that that should not be too vague. Tom, did
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MR. MAUNDER: Yes. I agree with what your comment is
there, Commissioner ~'oerster. You know, the -- trying to be
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you know, could box us into a corner. And, you know, the
intent of regulations like this that I look at is not to limit
what the operator could supply. I believe it's important, you
know, from their point of view to educate the Commission as to
what the intended plans are. And while I don't want boxes of
things, I'd like, you know, a complete description of the
metering equipment and the station.
COMMTSSIONER FOERSTER: And if the operatcr provided you
too little infarmation, what would be your remedy?
MR. MAUNDER: It would be to contact him to,,.4,
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Pick up the phone.
MR. MAUNDER: .....seek clarification.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay.
MR. ENGEL: We11, Commissioner, take for example an
analogy of a drilling permit. The State has or the Commission
has stated very clearly what's required to submit an
application for a permit to drill. And because of that an
operator knows what to put in the application, they receive,
review it and they're handled quite timely. In this case there
is not si.lch detail like a drilling permit. So our point was
around at least give us some of the broad -- the -- some basics
that you want to see in an application to cover the required
information otherwise it could create delays in getting
authorization.
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we're vague is that there is a variety of inetering
techniques.....
MR. ENGEL: Uh-huh.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....and if we get too specific we
may leave something out. And these sorts of things are -- if
we need to get more specific we generally do those via specific
pool rules.
MR. ENGEL: Well, again our concern is around potential
delays in submitting applications and receiving approval. So
that's why we were considering at least the minimum
requirements for an application. And then you -- I agree with
you ~hat all conditions are not the same, but all do have
fundamentally similar components (indiscernible - simultaneous
s~eech) . . . .
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: We can take a harder look at our
verbiage and with those concerns in mind.
MR. ENGEL: Okay.
MR. MAUNDER: If I may add, Commissioner Foerster, it
would also be possible to come up with a guidance document as
we have with other -- other regulations.....
COMMISSTONER FOERSTER: Okay.
MR. MAUNDER: .....to guide the implementation.
MR. ENGEL: That's a good option, Tom.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay.
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COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. Timing for approvals, We
talked about both for new and existing instaliations and we
felt pretty strongly that based on some experiences we've had
recently that that -- the onus needs to be on the operator to
know what he's doing and take care of his business. If we told
you we needed six months in advance -- if we told Oooguruk we
needed it six months in advance we'd still be contemplating it.
MR. ENGEL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: So we do -- we are very reluctant
to put timings on these approvals. That onus needs to remain
with the operator.
MR. ENGEL: I don't feel the Commission can appreciate the
design and procurement of such equipment for new places, new
fields, and it's months and months of engineering, planning,
procurement activities. So an operator would need to
understand the expectation from the Commission on how long it
will take to get an application approved and therefore we would
be able to schedule that in our planning process to meet
the.....
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: It -- but it depends on the
complexity of the -- of installation. I mean the operator is
the most experienced with what they're going to install. So
it's totally inappropriate for us to guesstimate what you're
going to do and how complicated it is. We are going to leave
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MR. MAUNDER: If I may add, Commissioner Foerster, from
the staff point of view we look at it that the early in the
process the Commission's involved, the better it would be. In
my prepared remarks I spoke of the metering installation for
the gas skid for gas in Nuiqsut. You know, the first contact
we had~ that facility was in place and ~hat surely is much
further down the timeline than we should have been -- should
have been contacted. Had we been brought in to or notified of
the design intent when it first hit paper or prior to things
being ordered, then the reservations with regard to the chasen
equipment that had been made at that time and the accommodation
or the resolution determined at that point rather than after
things were in the field.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Thank you. Okay. The last
point.....
MR. ENGEL: Well, Commissioner, on that point I understand
your comments related to the timing on it and I believe from an
operation standpoint for a existing instaiiation I believe that
can be handled easily by contacting the Commission and
discussing the situation at hand, but new installation is a
different consideration. Because of the -- you may be
commingling with existing equipment or you may be bringing in
new equ~pment. So again the timing on that could be
troublesome to us.
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you. The timing expectation for us is the sooner you bring us
into the process the more likely you'l1 have the approval when
you need it. That's your timing requirement from us.
MR. ENGEL: Okay. So -- all right. So I think these are
-- as we're going through these we're making decisions now that
will be implemented when these regulations become effective.
And I can see situations where we'd be having more dialocrue
with the Commission to maybe fine tune things down the road to
help this become more clear. So I understand your point, but I
do want to leave the Commission with the concern we have around
potential delays that may result in these.....
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Nobody like delays.....
MR. ENGEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....and the planner is the best
person.....
MR. ENGEL; Okay. Very good.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....at avoiding the delays and I
hope that your experience with this Commission is that we do
everything we can to help you get through us without delays.
And we have -- this regulation change is not intended to change
that.
MR. ENGEL: Very good.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay.
MR. ENGEL: Thank you for that.
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COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Lastly you had a suggestion that
we do something a little dif~erently for a hypothetical future
case. But I want to ask Mr. Maunder, from the description of
Mr. Engel's hypothetical future case do we have any existing
experience with a similar hypothetical case and how did we
handle tha~?
MR. MAUNDER: Yes, we do. Thank you, Commissioner
Foerster. Yes, we do have experience with what I would
perceive to be a similar case and that was with the field that
you mentioned earlier, with Oooguruk where the production
outside of the Kuparuk River Unit is measured using multi-phase
meters and then commingled prior to the custody transfer point.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay. How do we handle it in that
instance?
MR. MAUNDER: That was handled in the pool rules.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: In the pool rules. And is -- the
pcint that we are making with this discussion, Mr. Engel, is
that we try to leave regulations broad so that they -- one size
fits all.
MR. ENGEL: Right.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: And when you need to do something
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MR. ENGEL: Right.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....is in the pool rules and
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COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....want to keep it that way.
MR. ENGEL: Yeah, I understand tha~. And the reason we
brought it up is because of section (a), it does get very
specific about measuring before leavincr the lease. And in the
case that Mr. Maunder just mentioned, it may be measured
downstream of that.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: And -- but we took care of that in
special pool rules.
MR. ENGEL: In a difierent process.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: And that's the way we prefer to
take care of.....
MR. ENGEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: .....special instances like that.
MR. ENGEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Did we -- I'm checking off and I'm
thinking we've covered everything in your letter. Have we left
anything out?
MR. ENGEL: No, I think we've covered everything.....
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Okay.
MR. ENGEL: .....Commissioner. And I want to thank --
thank you for taking the time this morning to do it and I
believe that in the past we've always worked so well with the
staff here at the Commission to understand the intent and the
nature of the regulations. However in this case due to several
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So thank you for that time this morning, it did clarify our
question.s and I think it will be effective in our application
of the proposed regs.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: Well, thank you, Mr. Engel, for
giving so much attention -- and the rest of the AOGA group for
giving so much attention to the details.
MR. ENGEL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: And I'm going to turn it back over
to you.
(Off record comments)
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Commissioner Norman, do you have any
comments or questions?
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Just one question. One of the
things that any regulatory agency is required to consider and
should consider is the burden that might be imposed, any
unintended consequences that may fall upon an operator as a
result of adoptin~ a new regulation. So my question for you is
the flip side of what was asked to Mr. Maunder, do you have any ,
concerns that if this is adopted with the clarifications that ~
have been provided by Commissioner Foerster and staff, do you
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I don't think it would be significant to the point where it
would burden an operator where it would become a troublesome
burden. But I would like to maybe leave that question open for
us as we get into it, as time goes down we can see the actual
impact as we work with the new regulations as proposed.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Yes. And, of course it's always
open, so if something turns out to impose a burden that no one
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may have foreseen or that is more onerous than intended, then
there's several ways to approach that, one of them is simply to
contact the Commission. The Commission has the ability on its
own initiative to initiate some further clarification or
initiate a formal petition to request something more formal.
So that option is always open to you.
MR. ENGEL: Yes, appreciate that. And like everything
that we deal with, the devils are in the details and once we
actually get into submitting applications then we'll figure out
a system to manage it effectively. And I believe that working
with the staff here at AOGCC and also the field staff has been
very helpful to us in the future -- I mean, in the past and I
believe it will be helpful to us as we move forward with this
regulation too. So I do appreciate the willingness to work
with us both from the office standpoint and the field
application. It helps we're all on the same page.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: I have nothing further, Mr. j
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Mr. Engel for your thoughtful concerns and comments as usual.
We appreciate industry working with us on these things, we
couldn't do it without you.
Okay. At this time are there -- I'll give -- I'11 hand
out the opportunity one more to anybody else in the room and
the public that would like to comment, testify?
MR. ENGEL: Well, Commissioner Seamount, one question I
have for a-- it's a process question really, could you
summarize the next step for us now with the regulations after
this meeting today?
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: I believe we're going tc come out with a
decision witri 30 days.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Would you like me to.....
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: And I'd -- our Assistant Attorney
General is here, but we would consider each and every comment
that you've made I think on a few points and I'd ask staff to
correct me or Commissioner Foerster, but for example possibly
on number 2 we're going to look at that and make sure that that
is not overly broad, the use of the term methodology. I just
raise that as an example, but we would consider all of the
comments that have been raised. And then following that we
would adopt the regulation and the regulation adoption would --
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MR. ENGEL: Okay. Thank you.
MR. BIRNBAUM: Doesn't need to be for 30 days, I mean, I
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CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Okay. I stand corrected as usual. Okay.
Is there anything else? Hearing none, do I hear a motion?
COMMISSIONER FOERSTER: I move to adjourn
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Do I hear a second?
COMMISSIONER NORMAN: Second.
CHAIR SEAMOUNT: Anybody opposed? Hearing none, we stand
adjourned.
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I, Rebecca Nelms, Notary Public in and for the State of
Alaska, residing at Anchorage, Alaska, and Reporter for R& R
Court Reporters, Inc., do hereby certify:
THAT the annexed and foregoing Public Hearing In the
Matter of the Proposed Amendments to 20 AAC 25.228 and 20 AAC
25.230 Regarding Production Measurement Equipment for Custody
Transfer Regulations, was taken by Lynn Hall on the 13th day of
January, 2009, commencing at the hour of 9:03 a.m., at the
Alaska Oi1 and Gas Conservation Commission, Anchorage, Alaska;
THAT this Hearing Transcripr_, as heretofore annexed, is a
true and correct transcription of the proceedings taken and
transcribed by Lynn Hall;
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and
affixed my seal this 22nd day of January, 2009.
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Phone: (907)272-1481 Fax: (907)279-8114
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Mari/yn Crockett, Executive Dir~cfor
Commissioner Dan Seamount, Chair
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
333 W. 7'~ Avenue, Suite 100
Anchorage, Alaska 99501
AOGA Comments on Meterin~Equipment
Reg,ulations [20 AAC 25.228~b~]
Dear Commissioner Seamount:
The 16 members of the Alaska Oil & Gas Association (AOGA) account for the majority of oil and
gas exploration, development, production, transportation, refining and marketing activities in the
state. We appreciate the opportunity to comment on these proposed regulations.
Our member companies are concerned about the potential broad application, interpretation and
implementation of tY~e proposed regulations. Given that AOGA members are unaware of the
background and reasoning for the proposed changes, we are concerned that if the current draft is
adopted there is the potential for inadvertent noncompliance.
Qur questions and concerns are most significant in cases where there will be surface or subsurface
commingling of pool~/units prior to the actual custody transfer meter. In that case a
"methodology" is developed to allocate production to the individual pools/units utilizing the
existing custody transfer equipment as well as other metering and/or well test equipment.
In these comments, the term "production measurement equipment" refers to Lease Automatic
Custody Transfer (LACT) Units and other oil and gas metering installations in similar service.
The following c~uestions and comments illustrate our concern:
1. What is the definition of "hydrocarbon measurement equipment" as expressed in section 20
AAC 25.228 entitled "Production measurement equipment for custody transfer"? Will the
hydrocarbon measurement equipment be limited to production metering equipment for
~ liquid and gas as the fluid leaves the lease, or will the proposed language be interpreted to
include well testing equipment? Well test equipment is not generally considered for
production metering service and then only in commingling operations.
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Members companies do no object to the application of the proposed revisions to
production metering equipment, however, there is concern about the general application to
well test equipment.
2. What does the term "metliodology" mean in the context of the proposed revisions? The
term "methodology" may refer to the calculations inherent in the operation of the
production metering equipment or it may refer to the determination of volumes allocated to
commingled pools or units.
If the term "methodology" is applied to production metering equipment, member
companies would not object. However there is concem if the term "methodology° makes
reference to well test equipment.
The process for gaining approval is also unclear. Will we need to provide our current
methodology for approval or simply future methodology changes?
3. What level of equipment changes will be eonsidered "altering hydrocarbon measurement
equipment"? That is, what is the definition of altering?
The concern with respect to production metering equipment and well test units is the
potential requirement to apply for approval for even routine maintenance activities. For
example, does it include replacing a gauge on a meter run, and does it include changing
orifice plates?
4. There is no change proposed tothe referenced API Manual of Petroleum Measurement
Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998_ While a standard reference is needed, we
suggest language be included that allows operators to use the latest revision of the API
standard or methods approved by the AOGCC. For example, the November 30, 1998
standard does not a11ow the use of ultrasonic meters or coriolos meters for fluid
measurement.
5. Use of the term "provide information" is vague and could lead to eonfusion as to what
exactly is required. Required information should be specified in the regulations, such as
manufacturer specifications, certifications, or gas flow schematics etc.
6. Timing for approvals - new installations: In cases where a totally new installation is
required, the design of the processing and metering equipment is often far in advance of
the actual installation. However, in the case of surface commingling, existing metering
equipment will most likely be used. The AOGCC approval process for this case is vague
with respect to methodology and timing. Our concern is possible delays for approvals of
the methodology and custody transfer equipment. We suggest a timeline be established for
acquiring AOGCC approvals for new installations.
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7. Timing for approvals - existing installations: Should there be a failure of the current
custody transfer equipment, some provision for rapid approval of changes is required to
minimize disruption. What will be required to demonstrate that the changes meet the
requirements of the API Manual of Petroleum Measurement Standards? Will approval of
replacement with a newer model of the same basic equipment be required? Will existing
production metering equipment be grandfathered or be required to be re-approved?
Additionally, we have a suggestion regarding approval for surface commingling between units in
section 20 AAC 25.228(a). We suggest adding specific language to 25228(a) to allow
hydrocarbon production to be measured downstream of an approved commingling point.
Due to conflicting schedules and the recent holiday season, we were unable to facilitate a working
session with AOGCC staff engineers to clarify the intent and application of these proposed
regulations. AOGA believes a future working session wouid be beneficial to both industry and
the AOGCC.
Please call Harry Engel, Chairman of the AOGA AOGCC Task Group at 564-4194 for any
questions or to arrange a work session.
Again, thank you far providing this opportunity to comment. We look forward to working with
the Commission.
Sincerely,
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Commissioner John Norman
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TO: Commissioners, AOGCC January 13, 2008
FR: Thomas E. Maunder, PE
RE: Commission Staff Statement Regarding Amending 20 AAC 25.228
Hearing before the Commission
The Commission's authority regarding the measurement of oil and gas may be found at
AS 31.05.030 (d) (6) - where it is stated that "The Commission may require ... the
gauging or other measuring of oil and gas to determine the quality and quantity of oil and
gas".
20 AAC 25.228 and 25.230 are the regulations that implement the authority granted in
statute for measurement. 25.228 first appears in the regulations effective April 2, 1986
and as written them specifically pertained to the equipment employed to physically
measure and mathematically calculate the quantities of oil and gas. 25.230 immediately
following contained further requirements pertaining to individual well measurement and
allocation as well as the measurement prior to severance from the property or unit where
produced. 25.230 in an earlier form was present in the Commission regulations effective
July, 1980. Measurement priar to severance from the property or unit is known as
custody transfer. It is also known as L.A.C.T. or Lease Automated Custody Transfer. In
1998, 25.228 and 25.230 were amended and reorganized. 25.228 in its amended form
addresses measurement equipment and procedures for custody transfer measurement.
25.230 as currently written addresses only allocation measurement and production
reporting.
The intent of the amendment being considered today is require the Operator of a unit or
property to involve the Commission before a new custody transfer station is installed or
existing equipment is altered. By adopting this amendment, the onus is on the Operator
to apprise the Commission of their plans in advance of the equipment being fabricated
and installed or altered.
The adoption of this amendment will allow the Commission to conduct our due diligence
regarding custody transfer measurement and help avoid situations that have been
encountered in the last several years. These include the fabrication and installation of
equipment to measure gas leaving Alpine for Nuiqsut. When the Commission was
ultimately presented with information on the meters, it was determined that the
uncertainty of the meters chosen exceeded that of standard orifice meters and the chosen
meters ultimately needed to be replaced. Another situation was encountered where the
functional meter elements including the electronic signaling equipment were changed and
the Commission first became aware of the changes when one of the Inspectors was
routinely inspecting the metering location. In the first case, the uncertainties of the
chosen meters clearly exceed the uncertainty of orifice meters which is essentially the
m~imum uncertainty presently accepted. Contact "up front" with Commission would
have eliminated the need to replace the meters. In the 2"d case, while the new equipment
did meet the requirements of the Petroleum Measurement Standards which satisfied the
present effective regulation, I don't believe it is acceptable that changes in custody
transfer measurement equipment are discovered during a routine inspection.
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I do not believe that this amendment places a large burden on the Operators. The State is
not the only party interested in quality measurement being performed. There are other
parties to the commercial transaction with financial interests in excess of the State's. The
present regulation requires that equipment used for custody transfer be fabricated,
installed and maintained in accord with the Petroleum Measurement Standards and that
the ultimate measurement of hydrocarbons also be in accord with the Standards. This
proposed amendment does not change that. The additional requirements being placed in
the regulation are to provide the Commission advance notice, copies of the relevant
documentation regarding the equipment and calculations and the opportunity to review
and concur with the plans.
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MEMORANDUM
To: Daniel T. Seamount, Jr., Chair
Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
Dept. of Administration
From: Deborah E. ef~
Chief Assistant Attorney General
and Regulations Attorney
Legislation and Regulations Section
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Date: November 17, 2008
File No.: 993-09-0052
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Re: Regu~ations File Opening Re:
20 AAC 25.228(b): Hydrocarbon
Measurement Equipment
We have received your commission's memorandum of November 12, 2008 regarding this
project, along with a copy of the proposed regulations and related documents. The project has
been assigned to Assistant Attorney General Alan Birnbaum, phone number 269-5100.
Our department's file number for this project is 993-09-0052. This file number should be
used on any further conespondence pertaining to this project.
DEB:pvp
cc: Carol Beecher, Regulations Contact
Dept. of Administration
Jody Colombie, Special Assistant to the Commissioner
Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
Dept. of Administration
Jason Hooley, AAC Coordinator
Lt. Governor's Office
Tina Kobayashi, Supervising Attorney
Oil, Gas & Mining Section
Alan Birnbaum, Assistant Attorney General
Anchorage
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ALASKA OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TO: Deborah E. Bel~r DATE: November 12, 2008
Chief Assistant Attorney General
Legislation and Regulations Section
SUBJECT: Request to Open File
Regarding Amendments
to Hydrocarbon
Measurement Equipment
Regulations,
20 AAC 25.228(b)
FROM: Daniel T. Seamount, Jr. '~~~~
Regulations Contact
Department of Administration
Please open a file for an Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (Commission)
project to amend Title 20, Chapter 25, Section 228(b) of the Alaska Administrative Code,
regarding hydrocarbon measurement equipment.
Enclosed is the public notice, Additional Regulations Notice Information, and proposed
amendments to 20 AAC 25.228(b).
Please assign Assistant Attorney General Alan Birnbaum to this project. The
Commission's contact person is Jody Colombie at 793-1221 or jody.colombic~c~alaska.~,~ov.
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NOTICE OF PROPOSED CHANGES IN THE REGULATIONS OF THE
ALASKA OIL AND GAS CONSERVATION COMMISSION
The Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (Commission) proposes to adopt changes to Title 20,
Chapter 25, of the Alaska Administrative Code. The Commission proposes to amend 20 AAC 25.228(b)
to require an operator to provide information to and obtain the approval of the Commission prior to the
following: (1) installing ar altering hydrocarbon measurement equipment used for custody transfer
purposes; and (2) adopting or changing the methodology used for determining hydrocarbou volumes.
For a copy of the proposed regulation changes, contact Jody Colombie, Special Assistant to the
Commission (at 907-793-1121 or jody.colo~nbie@alaska.gov), or visit www.aobcc.alaska.~r~,ov.
Written comments on the proposed regulation changes, including the potential costs to private persons of
complying with them, may be submitted to Ms. Colombie at jodticolombie cr alaska. ~ov or the
Commission: 333 W. 7`~' Avenue, Suite 100, Anchorage, AK 99501.
Written and oral comments may also be submitted at a January 13, 2009, 9:00 a.m. hearing at the
Commission. The hearing might be extended to accommodate those present before 9:30 a.m. who do not
have an opportunity to comment.
If, because of a disability, you need a special accommodation, contact Ms. Colombie by January 8, 2009.
YOU SHOULD COMMENT DURING THE TIME ALLOWED IF YOUR INTERESTS COULD BE
AFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED REGULATION CHANGES. After the public comment period, the
Commission will, without further notice, adopt the proposed changes or other regulation changes dealing
with tbe same subject ar take no action. Accordingly, the language of any final regulations may be
different from the proposed changes. (Written and oral comments are public.)
Statutory Authority: AS 31.05.030.
Statutes Being Implemented, Interpreted, or Made Specific: AS 31.05.030.
Fiscal Information: The proposed regulation changes are not expected to require an increased
appropriation.
DATE: November 12, 2008
Daniel T. Seamount, Jr.
Chair
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ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS NOTICE INFORMATION
(AS 44.62.190(d))
l. Adopting agency: Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.
2. General subject of regulations: hydrocarbon measurement equipment.
3. Citation of regulations: 20 AAC 25.228(b).
4. Reason for the proposed action: to require an operator to provide information to and
obtain the approval of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission prior to the
following: (1) installing or altering hydrocarbon measurement equipment used for
custody transfer purposes; and (2) adopting or changing the methodology used for
determining hydrocarbon volumes.
5. RDU/component affected: Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.
6. Cost of implementation to the state agency: zero.
7. Contact person for the regulations:
Name: Daniel T. Seamount, Jr.
Title: Chair
Address: 333 W. 7t" Avenue, Suite 100, Anchorage, AK 99501
Telephone: (907) 793-1221
E-mail: jody.colombie@alaska.gov
8. Origin of the proposed action: Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission staff.
9. Date: November 12, 2008.
10. Prepared by: /
Jod . Col bi
Spe al A'st to the Commission
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
(907) 793-1221
5. RDU/comPon~t affe~~d= A~ask~ ENi 8nd Gas
conse+vation CommiSSion.
b. Cost of imp~Ernentation to the state aSency
zero.
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9. Date: Novembe~ ~2, 2008.
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publication of said newspaper. That the annexed is a copy of an
advertisement as it was ublished in re lar issues and not in
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written comments on the propased regufation '
changes, mctudin~ the potent~al evsts to priveFe <
supplemental form) of said newspaper on the above dates and Persons vf comply~ng witti them, may be submi~€ed ,
that such news a er was re ularl distributed to its subscribers
p p g y to nris. cotompie at jody.colombie~ataska.gov or the `
Cammisston: 333 w. 7th Avenue, Suite 100,
during all of said period. That the full amount of the fee charged anchorage,,aK 9QSa~.
for the foregoing publication is not in excess of the rate charged written and oral comments may a~so be submitted
rivate individuals.
p at a ~anuary ~s, 2009, 4:00 a.m, ftiearing at the
Car~rreissFon_ The hearf~g migk~t Fie extended ta ?
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It, because of a disability, yan need a speciat ;
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Subscribed and sworn to me before this date: , YOU SHOVLD COMMENT DURt:NG THE Ttlv1E
ALLtlWED tF YOUR IN7ERESTS CQUtD BE AFFECTED
BY THE PROPOSED RECrULATION CHRNGES. Aft2r
~ the public commeRt period, tl2e CommiSSion will,
withvut further notiCe, adopt tf~e proposed Chan~es
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R~oposea cnanges. (wertten antl orat comments are
pubtic.) :
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STATE OF ALASKA NOTICE TO PUBLISHER I
ADVERTISING ORDER NO.
ADVERTISING INVOICE MUST BE IN TRIPLICATE SHOWING ADVERTISING ORDER NO., CERTIFIED AO-02914012
AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION (PART 2 OF THIS FORM) WITH ATTACHED COPY OF
ORDER qDVERTISEMENT MUST BE SUBMITTED WITH INVOICE
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DATES ADVERTISEMENT REQUIRED:
November 14, 2008
DATE OF A.O.
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ITS ENTIRETY ON THE DATES SHOWN.
SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS:
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State of ss INVOICE MUST BE IN TRIPLICATE AND MUST REFERENCE
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division. A CERTIFIED COPY OF THIS AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION
MUST BE SUBMITTED WITH THE INVOICE.
Before me, the undersigned, a notary public this day personally appeared ATTACH PROOF OF PUBLICATION HERE.
who, being first duly sworn, according to law, says that
he/she is the
of
Published at in said division and
state of and that the advertisement, of which the annexed is
a true copy, was published in said publication on the day of
2008, and thereafter for consecutive days, the last publication
appearing on the day of , 2008, and that the rate
charged thereon is not in excess of the rate charged private individuals.
Subscribed and sworn to before me
This _ day of 2008,
Notary public for state of
My commission expires _
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20 AAC 25.228(b) is amended to read:
(b) Hydrocarbon measurement equipment must be fabricated, installed, and
maintained in conformance with relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum
Measurement Standards, as revised as of November 30, 1998. Before installin~ or
alterin~ hvdrocarbon measurement equipment used for custodv transfer purposes,
the operator shall submit to the commission information demonstrating
conformance and obtain commission approval of the proaosed install_ation or
alteration and the methodologv proposed for determining hvdrocarbon volumes.
The submitted information shall include, among other thin~s, sample calculations,
with the underlving measured data, generated usin~ the proposed methodologv. An
approved methodolo~y mav not be chan~ed without commission anproval.
(Eff. 4/2/86, Register 97; am 11/7/99, Register 152; am /_/ , Register )
Authority: AS 31.05.030
Editor's note: A copy of the relevant parts of the API Manual of Petroleum Measurement
Standards may be reviewed during business hours at the commission's office and may be
obtained from the American Petroleum Institute, Order Desk, 1220 L Street, N.W., Washington,
D.C. 2005-4070.
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Mary Jones
XTO Energy, Inc.
Cartography
810 Houston Street, Ste 2000
Ft. Worth. TX 76102-6298
George Vaught, Jr.
PO Box 13557
Denver. CO 80201-3557
Mark Wedman
Halliburton
6900 Arctic Blvd.
Anchorage, AK 99502
Baker Oii Tools
4730 Business Park Bivd., #44
Anchorage, AK 99503
Gordon Severson
3201 Westmar Cr.
Anchorage, AK 99508-4336
James Gibbs
PO Box 1597
Soldotna, AK 99669
Richard Wagner
PO Box 60868
Fairbanks, AK 99706
North Slope Borough
PO Box 69
Barrow. AK 99723
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David McCaleb Cindi Walker
IHS Energy Group Tesoro Refining and Marketing Co.
GEPS Supply & Distribution
5333 Westheimer, Ste 100 300 Concord Plaza Drive
Houston, TX 77056 San Antonio, TX 78216
Jerry Hodgden Richard Neahring
Hodgden Oil Company NRG Associates
408 18th Street President
Golden, CO 80401-2433 PO Box 1655
Colorado Springs, CO 80901
Schlumberger Ciri
Drilling and Measurements Land Department
2525 Gambell Street #400 PO Box 93330
Anchorage, AK 99503 Anchorage, AK 99503
Ivan Gillian Jill Schneider
9649 Musket Bell Cr.#5 US Geological Survey
Anchorage, AK 99507 4200 University Dr.
Anchorage, AK 99508
Jack Hakkila Darwin Waldsmith
PO Box 190083 PO Box 39309
Anchorage, AK 99519 Ninilchick, AK 99639
Kenai National Wildlife Refuge Penny Vadia
Refuge Manager 399 West Riverview Avenue
PO Box 2139 Soldotna, AK 99669-7714
Soldotna, AK 99669-2139
Cliff Burglin Bernie Karl
PO Box 70131 K&K Recycling Inc.
Fairbanks, AK 99707 PO Box 58055
Fairbanks, AK 99711
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Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
From: Colombie, Jody J (DOA)
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: AOGCC Amending Regulations Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment
Attachments: Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment Regulation.pdf
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Attachments:Hydrocarbon Measurement Equipment Regulation.pdf;
Recent new meter instal~ations have uncovered a gap in our regulations. There is currently nothing to specify that and how an
operator must receive initial approval for custody transfer metering equipment. Custody transfer metering systems are used to
measure hydrocarbon volumes for revenue and tax determinations. Therefore, initial approval is necessary to prevent an
improperly designed, installed, or calibrated custody transfer metering system from going into service. Attached are the Public
Notice, Additional Information and Proposed Regulation.
Jody J. Colombie
Special Assistant to the Commission
Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
333 West 7th Avenue, Suite 100
Anchorage, Alaska 99501
(907} 793-1221 Direct Line
(907) 276-7542 Fax
11/13/2008
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SERVICE LIST FOR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO 20 AAC 25.228(b)
On November 13, 2008, the public notice of proposed amendments to 20 AAC 25.228(b),
Additional Regulations Notice Information, and proposed regulation were mailed to:
Annette Kreitzer
Commissioner
Department of Administration
PO Box 110200
Juneau, AK 99811
Legislative Reference Library
Legislative Affairs Agency
State Capitol
Juneau, AK 99801
Mail Stop: 3101
Senator Charlie Huggins, Chair
Senate Resources
State Capitol
Juneau, Alaska 99801
Representative Kurt Olson, Chair
House Oil & Gas Special Committee
State Capitol
Juneau, Alaska 99801
Senator Lesil McGuire, Chair
Administrative Regulation Review
State Capitol
Juneau, Alaska 99801
Senator Kim Elton, Chair
Legislative Council
State Capitol
Juneau, Alaska 99801
On November 13, 2008, the file-opening memorandum, public notice of proposed
amendments to 20 AAC 25.228(b), Additional Regulations Notice Information, and
proposed regulation were mailed to:
Debra Behr
Chief Assistant Attorney General
Legislation and Regulations Section
Department of Law
PO Box 110300
Juneau, AK 99811